I’m just curious how come NASA keeps saying these astronauts are flying further than anyone has ever flown before? Apollo 8, and 13 also went around the moon. Right?
"Honey, we'll just fly out there and come right back. Look, I've already plotted out the orbital trajectories and everything. It'll be a quick trip, like a week, maybe 10 days tops. What could go wrong?"
Find out THIS SUMMER in National Lampoon's Moon Vacation.
the bottom image broke my brain more than any horror movie ever could. space isn't just big. it's an amount of nothing that your mind physically cannot process
Technically nothing is really different. The math is the same. The rockets are the same. The tech might be faster and more advance but it all comes down to burning a ton of fuel in a big tube to propel stuff at the right angle and direction.
There is no "dark side" of the moon. The sun reaches all sides. At the poles you have some deep craters where the sunlight can't reach the bottom, but all of the surface is illuminated by the sun.
That's a neat graphic and shows a bit of the celestial mechnics involved. Cool. The published picture is good for folks who don't have any idea about orbits or the distances involved; this is a lot of people. It's a shame but a necessary evil.
From what I remember in kerbal space program... a return flight like that is the scariest shit because there is no "getting your bearings" of parking in a stable orbit, nope, straight to landing sequence!
Mind boggling how we can rely on nothing but gravity to fling our fellow humans to and from our little corner of space. This will be the farthest humanity has traveled from Earth
Someone once asked me how you should respond to someone who thinks the earth is flat or that the lunar landing was fake. I said you don't. Why would you waste your time? It's like trying to explain how a light bulb works to a monkey. They just aren't smart enough to understand.
And they want us to believe that in 1969 they sent a rover and fucked around on the moon and then came back with technology that today would be considered obsolete if used in a standard calculator? Come on. The US has fucked with history and the perception of reality since WW2.
Millions of people saw the launch happen, there are mirrors on the moon we placed that allow us to determine exactly how far away it is from us, the USSR did not say it was fake when they had ever reason to.
That is correct. The vast majority of their propulsion is from a gravity assist from the Earth and then the moon itself will help them basically turn and head back to Earth.
If they "miss" they would not be able to return home
No they are on an elliptical orbit around Earth that will flyby the moon. The trajectory they are on allows for them to flyby the moon and return to a similar elliptical orbit without using any propulsion
The landing spacecraft are a separate thing and they won't be ready for some years, same story with the lunar surface spacesuits. So no ticket to the surface today sadly
Both going into lunar orbit and landing would cost a bunch of extra fuel that the mission straight up doesn't have. It doesn't have the equipment, and would be a more complex mission than this test flight.
It's not the same as driving a car to the beach and going for a swim while you're there anyway. Just doesn't work that way unfortunately
If you're spending tax payer's dollars on a trip to the beach, the lack of a swim and a hotdog is negligible even with post-Iran gas prices. If you are planning a trip with the complexity of reaching the moon, why not include a landing- or even a base, or grow a plant. Not a simple sight-seeing. This is how it works if you shoot for the stars, and your acceptance of otherwise is disheartening. Almost bot-like.
Stepping out the car is easy. Landing on the Moon is one of the most difficult things humans can do.
"If you are planning a trip with the complexity of reaching the moon, why not include a landing"
Because that would make it significantly more complex, and the hardware hasn't been tested with humans before. It's literally rocket science, it's not a matter of 'well you're there anyway, making a base is a small added effort'
They're literally going to the fucking Moon, making true what humans across millennia could only conceive of gods doing. And you're like 'meh, they're not even permanently settling a whole new world on their first manned test flight'. To me, that is a disheartening lack of enthusiasm.
"This is how it works if you shoot for the stars"
No, it isn't. Apollo 11 landed on the Moon. All the other Apollo missions before that were working up to it, testing the spacecraft diligently. There were even three missions around the Moon before landing on it. Doing your duty and testing the capability of your technology is absolutely how progress is made
This mission should be evidence that humans never walked on the moon. If they ‘could do it’ 57 years ago, they shouldn’t need trial runs where they don’t even land.
And why would they need a mobile phone to go to the moon?
Apollo was obviously very difficult but absolutely possible with the technology of the time, especially with Space Race motivation and 4.5% of the federal budget (as opposed to 0.35% now) behind it.
Think about how different tech is from 1969 to now. You can't just plow wildly into using different, brand new and untested technology and pick up where you left off.
Neat part is that achieving that first loop takes 90% of the fuel (of the upper stages, not counting the launch stages today), and only a little more is needed to make the big loop.
The next mission will have an unmanned lunar lander and the one after that will be manned
However, I kind of feel like it's worth noting that in the history of mankind only 24 people have orbited the Moon. Saying, *That's it??" seems a little dismissive of what a massive achievement this actually is.
Are they going to take high quality pics of the moon or is this just a 'see if we can' kind of mission for the boots on the moon mission that's happening in a few years?
The lunar reconnaissance orbiter kinda takes the price for highest quality pics of the moon so they won't be able to make better pictures than that but they will still make some, capturing our imagination etc. But the primary objective of the mission will be testing the spacecraft with people on board
Man Kerbal Space Program was a peak game. I remember doing similar manoeuvres back when I played that a bunch and it’s cool that the knowledge is still relevant. I don’t think I’ve learnt as much from any other game.
They are thrusting at the periapsis (lowest and slowest point in the orbit) of their orbit of Earth. Even a tiny amount of thrust at that point allows them to easily escape the orbit of their earth.
Yeah, I wonder what people like Stephen Hawking and Albert Einstein thought about regular folks like me. It had to be frustrating for them at times to just deal with the general public.
NASA receives less than 0.04% of the total US federal budget
Meanwhile the US gives up to $800 billion to the ultra rich to bail them out and give them tax breaks
Up to $300 billion a year for corporate subsidies and loopholes
Another $150 billion to improper spending and government waste
Meanwhile NASA, an agency dedicated to making new discoveries and advancing technology (which ALWAYS trickles down into improving our own lives) gets less than $25 billion a year😭😭😭
Because being effectively flung that far out into the deep black of space, your hopes of return relying on slingshotting around a moving rock to get back home to earth… is terrifying.
Those astronauts are some steely eyed rocketmen and women. And their endeavors benefit all of mankind.
In which way does something we did with significantly less tech 60 years ago benefit "all of man kind" today?
The actual point of the space race was to fine tune the math and technology to build the ICBM and have nuclear first strike capability all over the globe.
I pay a quarter of every check to insurance that capriciously goes out of network when I need it.
Because this lunar mission, as all missions into space do, gets us one step closer to mining the vast resources of space. Things that we only have because they happen to fall to earth, like gold, silver, platinum, palladium, rhodium, iridium, etc. but are incredibly useful for things like computers will cease to be rare and extremely expensive. The lower cost and more availability there will be more research into using them which will mean life will be easier and better for everyone. That includes you.
The technology from such missions is invaluable to humanity, not only for future space endeavors but often also for a variety of other terrestrial applications. Read up on it. It’s a gateway mission for eventual larger, more permanent human footprint on the moon and longer-term, Mars missions. There’s an awful lot of new technology being tested here.
It’s a free return trajectory. They will only be doing a fly-by, so moon or not, the path they take will be pretty much the same. It allows them to be able to abort a moon landing and return to an elliptical orbit around Earth should something happen, which is what happened on Apollo 13.
I believe what they're asking is if they don't get close enough to the Earth do they actually have fuel in the spacecraft to turn them around so they are pointed, and heading, back to Earth
No they won’t orbit around. They didn’t reach escape velocity so if they missed the moon, the trajectory will still have them go around Earth, albeit not exactly the same , but very close.
It wasn’t intended to be. I think it’s interesting your expectation was to be spoon fed. Since doing a 3 second search with google is too much of a chore…
Lol so the absolute best you could do was to send a general NASA page about why space exploration benefits humanity and almost all of it is about the work on the ISS. Which is actual scientific research. It's pretty telling that given two chances, you still can't explain how it's not a massive waste of time and resources.
No, I could do better. I just don’t feel like dedicating much time to presenting you with readily accessible information you’re too lazy to find on your own. If you’re really interested, do a google search and spend 10 minutes educating yourself.
Okay, so you've got nothing then. Noted. Would've literally taken less time and typing to just...write two or three reasons. But you can't. Because there aren't any.
Lander and spacesuits for the Lunar surface aren't ready yet. Time enough to test the spacecraft, the rocket and things like rendezvous maneuvers, also ground operations, rescue and recovery operations
I watched something talking about traveling to a star and that technology is advancing so quickly that if we sent a shuttle today and a shuttle in 50 years they would arrive at the same time lol.
Reminds me of my Kerbal attempts to get to the moon. Chasing it down, missing, and running out of fuel and being in an eternal orbit around the planet or sol.
No it's like if there was a 50 year old photo of someone baking bread (what they say is bread anyway) one time and no one else has ever baked a loaf of bread since... People would reasonably start to doubt if you can bake bread...
And then when they try again after 50 years, should they be surprised they're not immediately opening a bakery? I'm not sure where you want this analogy to go tbh :p
Either you think it's easy, in which case I'll ask you why it hasn't been done in 50 years, or you think it's hard, in which case I'll ask you why we should be surprised they're flying test missions
Yeah, apparently it's a 10 day trip. They'll go around the earth first to slingshot themselves towards the moon, they go around the moon then back to earth. Wild.
Que pasa si fallan por un par de kilómetros? Sigue de largo?
ReplyDeleteDoes anybody know which software generated the simulation below? Seems to be a realistic implementation of orbital mechanics!
ReplyDeleteThe distance between the earth and moon is vast enough to fit all the other planets of the solar system between them
ReplyDeleteCasi un millón de kilómetros, 10 días y 90 billones de dólares, velocidad promedio 4,000 km/hr velocidad máxima 27,000 km/hr
ReplyDeleteI’m just curious how come NASA keeps saying these astronauts are flying further than anyone has ever flown before? Apollo 8, and 13 also went around the moon. Right?
ReplyDeleteImagine believing this lollllll
ReplyDeleteWhat isn’t there to believe?
DeleteCant they just go straight are they stupid? /s
ReplyDeleteThey're not landing on the moon. They just flying past and returning to earth
ReplyDeleteI think this makes it way less impressive
ReplyDeleteHow??
DeleteFrills;
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ReplyDelete"Clark, we can't go to the moon on vacation."
"Honey, we'll just fly out there and come right back. Look, I've already plotted out the orbital trajectories and everything. It'll be a quick trip, like a week, maybe 10 days tops. What could go wrong?"
Find out THIS SUMMER in National Lampoon's Moon Vacation.
Look kids, Aristarchus! Tycho!
DeleteOne wrong move and they become solar satellites.
ReplyDeleteYou mean the scale of the earth relative to the moon? The mission is the same?
ReplyDeletethe bottom image broke my brain more than any horror movie ever could. space isn't just big. it's an amount of nothing that your mind physically cannot process
ReplyDeleteThe fact that they done that over 50 years ago is INSANE.
ReplyDeleteTechnically nothing is really different. The math is the same. The rockets are the same. The tech might be faster and more advance but it all comes down to burning a ton of fuel in a big tube to propel stuff at the right angle and direction.
DeleteOf course but it’s just crazy how new it all was to them back then and they still had faith to put humans into these rockets.
DeleteWhat will they be able to see on the far side of the moon? The dark side that the sun does not reach?
ReplyDeleteIt's called the "dark side" because it always faces away from Earth, so we never get to see it from here. It still faces the sun about half the time
DeleteThere is no "dark side" of the moon. The sun reaches all sides. At the poles you have some deep craters where the sunlight can't reach the bottom, but all of the surface is illuminated by the sun.
DeleteGood thing they launched on April fools day. No jokes here.
ReplyDeleteJust watched the clip and it’s actually interesting in this simplified version
ReplyDeletethe spaceee is hugeee
ReplyDeleteJokes on you. My phone is smaller than the orbit. Still not to scale.
ReplyDeleteCan't all the planets fit between Earth and the moon the scale still looks off
ReplyDeleteThat's a neat graphic and shows a bit of the celestial mechnics involved. Cool. The published picture is good for folks who don't have any idea about orbits or the distances involved; this is a lot of people. It's a shame but a necessary evil.
ReplyDeleteWasting so much money...when there are so many people starving!
ReplyDeleteAwesome
ReplyDeleteWow!
ReplyDeleteIt’s a shame that we had to get back at a cold war era to get to space exploration and missions like this one .
ReplyDeleteThat's it?
ReplyDeleteTime to download Kerbal Space Program.
ReplyDeleteCool story bro
ReplyDeleteFrom what I remember in kerbal space program... a return flight like that is the scariest shit because there is no "getting your bearings" of parking in a stable orbit, nope, straight to landing sequence!
ReplyDeleteYeah, nobody believe this shit
ReplyDeleteand you know they have a full uninterrupted live stream from launch all the way to where it is right now in space, you can literally just Google it
DeleteNaa Totally bull
DeleteUneducated people like you will never understand what intelligent people can do.
Delete2/10 ragebait
DeleteEveryone does, it's just you 😭
DeleteWhy can't you go look at the launch yourself
A rat done bit my sister Nell
ReplyDeleteand Whitey's on the moon
I recommend researching the pilot of this mission, the brilliant Victor Glover.
DeleteAll that work just to miss the moon?
ReplyDeleteIf they hit it, that would really mess up the mission planning
DeleteKerbal players already know, they did the math for Artemis
ReplyDeleteAs a certified Kerbal Space Program gamer, I see a work field
ReplyDeleteMind boggling how we can rely on nothing but gravity to fling our fellow humans to and from our little corner of space. This will be the farthest humanity has traveled from Earth
ReplyDeleteYou can fit all the other 7 planets in the solar system (because pluto is not a planet). In the gap between the earth and the moon.
ReplyDeleteThis would greatly help with the lunar expedition in the future if it goes well.
ReplyDeleteShow them this
ReplyDeleteThe difference between comment sections on here and on Instagram when it's about the recent launch. Insane...
ReplyDeleteI don't have Instagram. How is it different?
DeleteHalf of the comments are flat earthers and consipracy theorists.
DeleteAaaaaaaaand thats why I'm not on Instagram 🤣
DeleteSomeone once asked me how you should respond to someone who thinks the earth is flat or that the lunar landing was fake. I said you don't. Why would you waste your time? It's like trying to explain how a light bulb works to a monkey. They just aren't smart enough to understand.
And they want us to believe that in 1969 they sent a rover and fucked around on the moon and then came back with technology that today would be considered obsolete if used in a standard calculator? Come on. The US has fucked with history and the perception of reality since WW2.
ReplyDeleteRovers only came in 1971, 3 landings were made before that without a rover.
DeleteDo you really think this guy cares about facts?
DeleteIf by "they" you mean the people working on this mission, they actually don't care very much if you believe it or not.
DeleteEh, science is just an opinion you know.
DeleteMillions of people saw the launch happen, there are mirrors on the moon we placed that allow us to determine exactly how far away it is from us, the USSR did not say it was fake when they had ever reason to.
DeleteIf they miss the moon will they just continue to float away from earth and have no way to reverse their trajectory?
ReplyDeleteThat is correct. The vast majority of their propulsion is from a gravity assist from the Earth and then the moon itself will help them basically turn and head back to Earth.
DeleteIf they "miss" they would not be able to return home
No they are on an elliptical orbit around Earth that will flyby the moon. The trajectory they are on allows for them to flyby the moon and return to a similar elliptical orbit without using any propulsion
DeleteThey already made the long journey, why not just land and hang out for a bit
ReplyDeleteThe landing spacecraft are a separate thing and they won't be ready for some years, same story with the lunar surface spacesuits. So no ticket to the surface today sadly
DeleteBoth going into lunar orbit and landing would cost a bunch of extra fuel that the mission straight up doesn't have. It doesn't have the equipment, and would be a more complex mission than this test flight.
DeleteIt's not the same as driving a car to the beach and going for a swim while you're there anyway. Just doesn't work that way unfortunately
If you're spending tax payer's dollars on a trip to the beach, the lack of a swim and a hotdog is negligible even with post-Iran gas prices. If you are planning a trip with the complexity of reaching the moon, why not include a landing- or even a base, or grow a plant. Not a simple sight-seeing. This is how it works if you shoot for the stars, and your acceptance of otherwise is disheartening. Almost bot-like.
DeleteStepping out the car is easy. Landing on the Moon is one of the most difficult things humans can do.
Delete"If you are planning a trip with the complexity of reaching the moon, why not include a landing"
Because that would make it significantly more complex, and the hardware hasn't been tested with humans before. It's literally rocket science, it's not a matter of 'well you're there anyway, making a base is a small added effort'
They're literally going to the fucking Moon, making true what humans across millennia could only conceive of gods doing. And you're like 'meh, they're not even permanently settling a whole new world on their first manned test flight'.
To me, that is a disheartening lack of enthusiasm.
"This is how it works if you shoot for the stars"
No, it isn't. Apollo 11 landed on the Moon. All the other Apollo missions before that were working up to it, testing the spacecraft diligently. There were even three missions around the Moon before landing on it.
Doing your duty and testing the capability of your technology is absolutely how progress is made
That rocket is not a lunar lander. Maybe next time.
DeleteThis mission should be evidence that humans never walked on the moon. If they ‘could do it’ 57 years ago, they shouldn’t need trial runs where they don’t even land.
ReplyDelete"We already drove a Ford Model T down to the beach, so there's no need to test our brand new Audi, which has never had people drive it before"
DeleteIt's a test flight because it's testing the spaceship, not the feasibility of the concept of going to the Moon
You can’t be seriously dull enough to think humans were on the moon. They couldn’t even make a mobile phone yet…
DeleteAnd why would they need a mobile phone to go to the moon?
DeleteApollo was obviously very difficult but absolutely possible with the technology of the time, especially with Space Race motivation and 4.5% of the federal budget (as opposed to 0.35% now) behind it.
What an obtuse retort. I didn’t say they needed a mobile phone to go to the moon.
DeleteThey just never went.
Think about how different tech is from 1969 to now. You can't just plow wildly into using different, brand new and untested technology and pick up where you left off.
DeleteHell yeah math!
ReplyDeleteHow the fuck did I miss this news? Isn't this supposed to be huge?
ReplyDeleteIt IS huge
DeleteNeat part is that achieving that first loop takes 90% of the fuel (of the upper stages, not counting the launch stages today), and only a little more is needed to make the big loop.
ReplyDeleteThat's it?? I thought they were gonna land on that thing
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DeleteThe next mission will have an unmanned lunar lander and the one after that will be manned
However, I kind of feel like it's worth noting that in the history of mankind only 24 people have orbited the Moon. Saying, *That's it??" seems a little dismissive of what a massive achievement this actually is.
Are they going to take high quality pics of the moon or is this just a 'see if we can' kind of mission for the boots on the moon mission that's happening in a few years?
ReplyDeleteThe lunar reconnaissance orbiter kinda takes the price for highest quality pics of the moon so they won't be able to make better pictures than that but they will still make some, capturing our imagination etc. But the primary objective of the mission will be testing the spacecraft with people on board
DeleteMan Kerbal Space Program was a peak game. I remember doing similar manoeuvres back when I played that a bunch and it’s cool that the knowledge is still relevant. I don’t think I’ve learnt as much from any other game.
ReplyDeleteThey are thrusting at the periapsis (lowest and slowest point in the orbit) of their orbit of Earth. Even a tiny amount of thrust at that point allows them to easily escape the orbit of their earth.
The gap between the smartest zero point whatever percent of the population and the rest of us is insane.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I wonder what people like Stephen Hawking and Albert Einstein thought about regular folks like me. It had to be frustrating for them at times to just deal with the general public.
DeleteHow does this make my grocery bill lower?
ReplyDeleteYou're complaining about the wrong thing
DeleteNASA receives less than 0.04% of the total US federal budget
Meanwhile the US gives up to $800 billion to the ultra rich to bail them out and give them tax breaks
Up to $300 billion a year for corporate subsidies and loopholes
Another $150 billion to improper spending and government waste
Meanwhile NASA, an agency dedicated to making new discoveries and advancing technology (which ALWAYS trickles down into improving our own lives) gets less than $25 billion a year😭😭😭
orange out 🚪🏃
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DeletePlease tell me why I should give a shit.
ReplyDeleteBecause being effectively flung that far out into the deep black of space, your hopes of return relying on slingshotting around a moving rock to get back home to earth… is terrifying.
DeleteThose astronauts are some steely eyed rocketmen and women. And their endeavors benefit all of mankind.
In which way does something we did with significantly less tech 60 years ago benefit "all of man kind" today?
DeleteThe actual point of the space race was to fine tune the math and technology to build the ICBM and have nuclear first strike capability all over the globe.
I pay a quarter of every check to insurance that capriciously goes out of network when I need it.
There's poop in the sausage.
The bridges are collapsing.
Tell me why I should give a shit about this.
Because this lunar mission, as all missions into space do, gets us one step closer to mining the vast resources of space. Things that we only have because they happen to fall to earth, like gold, silver, platinum, palladium, rhodium, iridium, etc. but are incredibly useful for things like computers will cease to be rare and extremely expensive. The lower cost and more availability there will be more research into using them which will mean life will be easier and better for everyone. That includes you.
Deleteso we can... accelerate our race to irrelevance and create an actual thinking AI or ?
DeleteCuz I got bridges collapsing here, now, not space prospecting in 100 years.
You’re very odd. And also ill informed.
DeleteThe technology from such missions is invaluable to humanity, not only for future space endeavors but often also for a variety of other terrestrial applications. Read up on it. It’s a gateway mission for eventual larger, more permanent human footprint on the moon and longer-term, Mars missions. There’s an awful lot of new technology being tested here.
I'll admit to being odd, I'll refute being ill informed.
DeleteI need solutions to problems here, on earth, as I said above.
That looks like a small miscalculation will either cause you to crash into the moon or continue flying into space
ReplyDeleteHow am I supposed to interpret that days since launch counter?
ReplyDeleteIt...shows the number of days that will have passed since the launch. :p
DeleteOkay in my defense I seriously thought it took wayyyyy longer to get to the moon than that so it confused me for a second
DeleteYeea haha fair, it's a difficult thing to have an accurate gut feeling for
DeleteSorry for the dumb question, but what happens if they “miss” the moon ?
ReplyDeleteYes. If they miss the moon it might be impossible for them to turn around and head back to Earth
DeleteIt’s a free return trajectory. They will only be doing a fly-by, so moon or not, the path they take will be pretty much the same. It allows them to be able to abort a moon landing and return to an elliptical orbit around Earth should something happen, which is what happened on Apollo 13.
DeleteI believe what they're asking is if they don't get close enough to the Earth do they actually have fuel in the spacecraft to turn them around so they are pointed, and heading, back to Earth
DeleteAren’t they using the moon gravity to orbit around and head back to Earth? I imagine that missing the moon they will go in deep space
DeleteNo they won’t orbit around. They didn’t reach escape velocity so if they missed the moon, the trajectory will still have them go around Earth, albeit not exactly the same , but very close.
Deletewith the top picture, imagine how distorted all the other planets would have to be to fit in between the earth and the moon
ReplyDeleteThat’s f-in’ crazy.
ReplyDeleteAll my time playing Kerbal Space Program has trained me for this
ReplyDeleteReally shows how wasteful and absolutely pointless the entire mission is. Thanks for sharing!
ReplyDeleteI feel sorry for anyone who doesn’t understand how important these missions are.
DeleteThat was a really insightful and thorough explanation of why it's important.
DeleteI have yet to read a legitimate reason why we are doing this. It's absurd.
It wasn’t intended to be. I think it’s interesting your expectation was to be spoon fed. Since doing a 3 second search with google is too much of a chore…
Deletehttps://www.nasa.gov/humans-in-space/benefits-to-humanity/
Although perhaps you’ll deem this illegitimate?
Lol so the absolute best you could do was to send a general NASA page about why space exploration benefits humanity and almost all of it is about the work on the ISS. Which is actual scientific research. It's pretty telling that given two chances, you still can't explain how it's not a massive waste of time and resources.
DeleteNo, I could do better. I just don’t feel like dedicating much time to presenting you with readily accessible information you’re too lazy to find on your own. If you’re really interested, do a google search and spend 10 minutes educating yourself.
DeleteOkay, so you've got nothing then. Noted. Would've literally taken less time and typing to just...write two or three reasons. But you can't. Because there aren't any.
DeleteRead. It’s good for you.
DeleteHow much?
ReplyDeleteHow much?
ReplyDeleteI love orbital mechanics. I should go play Kerbal again
ReplyDeleteNot landing ?
ReplyDeleteLander and spacesuits for the Lunar surface aren't ready yet. Time enough to test the spacecraft, the rocket and things like rendezvous maneuvers, also ground operations, rescue and recovery operations
DeleteThis made me actually breathless to watch. Incredible
ReplyDeleteThis is the most impressive thing I have seen about this mission. Makes a LOT more sense now.
ReplyDeleteStraight out of the movie The Martian!!!👽
ReplyDeleteI watched something talking about traveling to a star and that technology is advancing so quickly that if we sent a shuttle today and a shuttle in 50 years they would arrive at the same time lol.
ReplyDeleteWell. "Somebody" did the math!
ReplyDeleteI don't believe it, that's a moonshot.
ReplyDeleteIt's a 7-day trip at well over 20,000 miles an hour
ReplyDeleteCan someone provide a full size version of the one that’s to scale? Without the comparison.
ReplyDeleteSee this page, also several different angles https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/5610/
DeleteThank you
DeleteThank you!
DeleteAnd thank you! :D
DeleteReminds me of my Kerbal attempts to get to the moon. Chasing it down, missing, and running out of fuel and being in an eternal orbit around the planet or sol.
ReplyDeleteWhat if they miss?
ReplyDeleteIf they miss, the trajectory will still allow them to return to the elliptical earth orbit, which is called a free-return trajectory
DeleteMost people don't understand the real trajectory, which is why they show you the static one.
ReplyDeleteWe're not even landing? And they expect us to believe they did it 50 years ago?
ReplyDeleteWhat about testing a new spaceship implies that another spaceship didn't make it further into a different programme?
DeleteThat's like saying my grandma couldn't have baked bread last week just because my batch of dough is still busy rising :p
No it's like if there was a 50 year old photo of someone baking bread (what they say is bread anyway) one time and no one else has ever baked a loaf of bread since... People would reasonably start to doubt if you can bake bread...
DeleteAnd then when they try again after 50 years, should they be surprised they're not immediately opening a bakery? I'm not sure where you want this analogy to go tbh :p
DeleteEither you think it's easy, in which case I'll ask you why it hasn't been done in 50 years, or you think it's hard, in which case I'll ask you why we should be surprised they're flying test missions
There is no bakery in this analogy... Loaf of bread=the moon landing...
DeleteYea everyone got that. I meant where are you going with the analogy? What are you trying to say lol
DeleteThe moon is 250,000 miles away, Artemis is going roughly 18,000mph, it'll take 14 hours to get to the moon.
ReplyDeleteThat would be true if it were going in a straight line and the velocity was constant. Afaik it's gonna take 5 days to get there if all goes well
DeleteYeah, apparently it's a 10 day trip. They'll go around the earth first to slingshot themselves towards the moon, they go around the moon then back to earth. Wild.
DeleteDoes it use boosters for the initial heading back towards earth before slingshot?
ReplyDeleteKinda want to play Kerbal Space Program now
ReplyDelete