When will we have 2024 election results online? | Mashable.
When will we know who won the 2024 election?
Election officials have spent the last four years investing in a stronger election process, counts included. Credit: Olivier Touron / Contributor / AFP via Getty Images |
Less than a week out from election day, as many around the country send in their mail-in ballots or stand in early voter lines, Americans are anxiously hoping to know who will be the next president ASAP.
Many pundits anticipate a quicker turnaround than the last presidential election, perhaps as early as Wednesday morning, but election experts — noting ongoing outcome-driven attacks on the veracity of ballot counting — want to hedge such expectations.
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Closer the race, longer the count
"The public perceives election results coming out fairly quickly, on election night or in the days after, but it has always been true that it has taken days or weeks to get official election results," said Chris Mann, director of research for the Center for Election Innovation and Research, a nonprofit that works with election officials to build stronger confidence in elections. "In order to get the official results, we have to count every single ballot. Making sure that is done properly, correctly, thoroughly, completely, it takes a while, and states have different processes."
Mann and others urge the public to understand that no two elections are alike, and a lot has been invested into the 2024 election that wasn't integrated into the 2020 process — this will speed up the count in some states, but that doesn't mean results will come out immediately. There are three important factors to understanding election results, he explained: First, just how close the result margins turn out to be; second, the technological factors used to tabulate results; and third, the electoral policies in each state.
Of the bunch, said Mann, close margins are the most important factor in establishing a result timeline. An election with close margins requires more ballots be counted before an outcome can confidently be called by media outlets, which is what led to the near 5-day wait in 2020.
Polls, of course, are already making educated guesses about the closeness of results in both the presidential race and other offices across the 50 states. But polls aren't actually projections about the winners and shouldn't be taken as such, according to experts. Instead, they try to capture and estimate voter attitudes. Intention, however, is slippery to capture, and voter opinion can change in a matter of minutes. Closer margins obscure these results even further, and may result in even more dedicated ballot counting.
Tech investments speed up counts, but have limits
State-specific technology will also play a key factor in calling a winner. Since 2020, election officials have invested heavily in expanding updated and faster ballot counting machines and processes to speed up the tech's use. Machine upgrades in states like Wisconsin, for instance, will speed up day-of counting compared to the last go-round.
"A variety of states, swing states and non-swing states, have invested in technology," Mann said. "If you ask election officials, or folks who closely observe elections, this election will be the most secure and transparent and well-run because there has been this investment in technology… We will be able to count ballots much faster than we have in almost any previous election across the country."
Technological innovations are bolstered by human-monitored processes, which can simultaneously speed up and slow down the counting process. And counting can't begin until ballots are verified, the most time consuming part of the entire tabulation process. Mann points to two important state policies that will determine when counting can take place. The first is whether or not a state allows what is known as "pre-processing," in which officials validate absentee and mail-in ballots ahead of time to speed up counting.
Earlier this month, the CEIR published a report on the state of early, mail-in voting policies per state, outlining a shift to allow more pre-processing efforts among 43 of the 50 states. Michigan and Nevada, for example, will now participate in pre-processing, with Michigan allowing early voting for the first time in order to speed its reporting up. Notably, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania do not allow pre-processing, and Pennsylvania is expected to lag behind other swing states in reporting an official count.
"Counting ballots takes time, and confusion around perceived delays can open the door to misinformation and unfounded doubts about the integrity of the count," the organization wrote. "Pre-processing reinforces election integrity and improves administrative efficiency. Beginning to process mail or absentee ballots before election day gives election officials more time to detect, investigate, and address potential errors or irregularities before election day."
The second state policy at play is the window of acceptance a state has for receiving ballots. States like California, Oregon, and Washington accept ballots postmarked on election day, which means contentious seats down the ballot may not be called for weeks. Federal law gives overseas residents and military members the same allowance, established in the 1980s. Even swift pre-processing may be swamped by day-of or post-election day ballots. "Election officials get a lot of ballots, and you can't pre-process something you don't have," said Mann. "So when the mail truck pulls up to the election office and unloads bags and bags of mail ballots that have just arrived, they again have to go through that whole process, even if they were allowed to process the ones that they had gotten days before, in advance."
Early voting has become an essential part of the pre-election day build up. Independent organizations like VoteHub attempt to monitor and track the amount of absentee and mail-in voting requests and returns for the public using web data, offering a scope to early voting.
The election is safe, despite claims otherwise
But even with policies that support human or machine help, and a host of data insights, official ballot counting takes time. That time opens up room for voter anxiety and misinformation. From attacks on mail-in ballots to false claims about election technology, voters can anticipate a swell of false partisan claims circulating election day about the veracity of the count. "One thing that's really important to watch out for is how much of this information is driven by outcome," said Mann. "These are not principled attacks, but opportunistic attacks driven by outcomes, not about the process."
Conflicting information may also sow doubt among voters. Mann encourages individuals to visit Vote.gov to get the most accurate information about their state's electoral process and officials, including how it declares a winner — the website has been revamped since 2020 to include even more resources for voters. Mann also points to CEIR's interactive guides that explain just how your ballot becomes a vote, what happens after a vote is cast, and how the media covers an election.
Election day will be a blur of unofficial calls based on early polls and conjecture by major political parties, with election officials reassuring the public as much as possible. Media outlets will try to beat each other to the most accurate call, based on a calculation of the gap between candidates and the number of uncounted ballots left. Simultaneously, political leaders on both sides may be eager to urge on more counting, ask to halt the count to call a winner, or participate in a confusing combination of both, as was seen with the 2020 Trump campaign's scattered ideological stance to mail-in ballot counting.
But one thing is certain: Your vote is secure. "Our elections will not be perfect. There will be power outages, there will be poll workers [who] oversleep and don't open the polls on time, but they will be as close to perfect as they have ever been," said Mann. "I'm 100 percent confident that it will be the best election that we have ever had, but it's also the election that's been under the most attack."
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Probably 4-7 days after
ReplyDeleteHaving a post from Mashable to tell me the election is secure, brings to mind the quip, "methinks they protest too much". Bot sure why exactly, but somehow, it's less than reassuring.
ReplyDeleteI doubt it will be called before Thursday
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The whole world voted for trump
ReplyDeleteThe whole world thinks trump is a moron. The majority of Americans agree.
Deletenot even close this why Kamala draws more crowds than dumpy trumpy
DeleteTRUMP 2024
ReplyDeleteThe final result will be either fast or in 2028 when Herr Drumpf will get another chance. In between be prepared for a looooong period of whining by one candidate, if required.
ReplyDeleteOur media and 'experts'... "It's possible it could be really quick... but we should sit tight."
ReplyDeleteI can remember the days when media wasn't all about clickbait and nonsense.
to hear trump speak, he's already won it, and his actions after the election will show this as he tries to steal it. this will be a massive blue tsunami and all the propaganda networks are trying to say it is close so they can legitimise the attempted coup.
ReplyDeleteWhoever wins the election, America will be the biggest loser. But then perhaps America will be getting its just deserts and reap what it has sown. Complete idiocy.
ReplyDeletewho should win and why seem hidden??
ReplyDeletepretty straightforward .... Harris is a mindless puppet ..... a self-propelled moron . Trump is anti-establishment ..... and they will try to kill him again. Meanwhile USA Debt is going up by $1 trillion every 100 days .... so no matter who is in charge they need to start a war with China asap .... because Russia is kicking their arses
ReplyDeleteTrump will declare himself the winner because he thought it.
ReplyDeleteEvery betting site has him as the winner. Virtue signaling and fake polls don't count when money is involved
DeleteHillary was the betting favourite in 2016, just so we are clear
DeleteSo the gambling sites want to give you money , you really believe that
Deletetrump wins
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Deletethats Biden
Delete"When will we know who won the 2024 presidential election?"..... Ask WNEP-TV, they were confident enough to broadcast the results 12 days ago.
ReplyDeletego trump
ReplyDeleteYes go Trump. Go away and never come back
DeleteGo, Trump.
DeleteBiden-Harris broke it; Trump will fix it.
ReplyDeleteTrump is going to fix the Biden-Harris mess. He is going to send the criminal back to where they are from.
ReplyDeleteI only see 'Trump' in the comments everywhere I look,
ReplyDeleteand today a news story came out that Kamala is leading, if this election is stolen AGAIN the people will not stay quiet!
https://cbs2iowa.com/news/local/final-iowa-poll-shows-harris-leading-trump
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DeleteIn this modern era with the most instant of technologies this should not take longer than it did 30 years ago to get results! I don't ever recall not knowing by the time I got up the next day. To say it is going to be a week or more is pure insanity.
ReplyDeletealmost there
ReplyDeleteWe already know the result. Harris will win.
ReplyDeleteNot because she deserves to, but because the 'democrats' (if you can call them that) have done everything in their power to ensure the vote goes their way. It's no accident they've been flooding swing states with immigrants for example.
Or maybe people don't want a convicted felon , sexual abuser or 👍
DeleteI've ordered the Champagne at my local for Nov 6th. Just to annoy the poor starmer lot of idiots.
DeleteThese articles are so numerous, and their content pointed towards confrontation, that one would come to the inevitable conclusion, that stoking fear and apprehension, is their main goal, whether it's there or not.
ReplyDeleteSo if it literally goes down to the wire, then the ultimate decision as to who wins won't be up to SCOTUS (who are no longer trusted to be unbiased), but the military and who they support.
ReplyDeleteSo the Pretorian Guard may once again be choosing the Emperor.
nonsense article, trump isnt even in power, currently has none. He has no holding over the military and if the election is contested then Biden stays in power until it isnt. Trump cant just use the military
DeleteCorrect Trump currently has no 'legal' power, other than threats and blustery from those that support him. But if this isn't settled by inauguration day in January, then power devolves to the Speaker of the House.
DeleteAnd if the entire issue becomes one of mass violence around the country, and the national guard and the military are called in, it would then be a matter of the winner being who they support, not necessarily who the people supported.
Currently both sides are claiming that the military support them.
well the NRA has 5mn members, the US military has less than half that.
DeleteSo yeah if it went kinetic there are a lot more on one side than the other.
The really worry would be if the army split, and then other countries chose sides.
I can imagine a Trudeau or mexican leader siding with Kamala.
I can see Russia or china siding with whoever was losing to prolong a conflict.
So yeah, hopefully it will be a clear win, that it unrefutable.
I am worried that day one it will be a clear win, and then votes will keep trickling in for a week and then the result is reversed because the total will be just over 50%....I cant see that being a good look for stability.
How on earth can it be legal to effectively bribe voters to vote a given way, regardless of the eye watering sum being touted by yet another crook backing Trump, who is already a convicted crook and known liar. If Trump does win it will just prove that America has become a basket case banana republic. God help us all.
ReplyDeleteWe will know the result when old man Trumph is dragged from the stage frothing and waving his little hands.
ReplyDeleteWhen will we know the result as Kamala Harris and Donald Trump face off in November 5 poll. When you see mass resignations or call for elections in EU governments LMAO
ReplyDeleteWell, we know Trump's result was a burger and fries......
ReplyDeletewho cares
ReplyDeletewhat was the point of writing this?
Deletewhat's the point of replying to this?
DeleteThe people of Ukraine who Trump will throw under the bus in appeasing Putin & most countries in Eastern Europe
DeleteI'm sure Ukrainian men love dying in a never ending war
Deletelol so ukraine didnt lose land under trump (but did under obama and biden) which is somehow evidence that Trump has ukraines back less than the other two?
DeleteIsn't there a question of national sovereignty & a moral issue at stake? In 1940 should Churchill have thrown in the towel to save British lives?
DeleteTrump will stop military aid to Ukraine enabling Russia to seize territory- how do you think that's going to play out?
Deleteah yes I see that russia has seized 0 land before this point....oh wait.
DeleteTrump apparently smells pretty bad because he doesn't shower regularly & can't drive
ReplyDeleteDid that help your frustration?
DeleteChild?
DeleteGiven the fact that the Trump campaign people are going to cheat like mad and challenge every close call, I doubt if will know it for some time. And even then they will probably have to suppress a coup or two. There are already trying voter suppression and burning ballot drop boxes. It doesn't bode well for a quick result.
ReplyDeleteWE ALREADY KNOW
ReplyDeleteTRUMP - VANCE 2024
Dancing with the Stars can count 130 million votes in five minutes, and so can some of these other little entertainment TV shows, and we can too. This is what everybody needs to know. We can count votes. This country can figure out who won an election on the day of the election. We’re just not doing it.
ReplyDeleteThanks to the Republicans, it will take one or two weeks to know who won the election. that so trump can say the election was stolen.
ReplyDeleteTrump leads on election night and poll watchers will be forced to leave the counting rooms and then the lead will shift to Kamala.
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Will we see mysterious midnight boxes of ballots appearing in some of the blue states once again, that will delay the counting? Will conservatives once again be denied the right to verify ballots, or will the democrats have their cops arrest them?
ReplyDeleteI do not think we will have a fair and just election, one party will steal the win, and send us into chaos and violence.
ReplyDeleteI know there are no winners in this election, check back in 2028.
ReplyDeleteYes. Kamala Harris.
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This is a total waste of time. The Telegraph totally avoided answering the obviously impossible question in their title. Wasting our time and lying is typical for the Telegraph.
ReplyDeleteI think it will come down to Arizona, as far as the counties taking the money, of course they will but just watch. If it looks like the Democrats don't have the votes there will be legal challenges just delay the outcome. Never rely on Democrats doing the right thing.
ReplyDeleteIt depends on the extent of backroom fixing Democrats have to do to marginally outvote Trump.
ReplyDeletelmao it depend on how many states mega pushes last minute changes to voting eligibility and counts.. Georgia nix the overseas vote.. Nevada take eligible people of the registration list ... Pennsylvania cry about early voting and lack of staff even if it is early voting and designed to reduce lines on the election day... more time vs more stations..
Deleteon and on ... nothing is fixed ... once fired never to be rehired... the gop said let the voter decide and he incited a mop to try and overthrow the election and storm the capital... sedition and a failed coup.
Impossible for the election not to be corrupt. Mail in ballots, no voter ID required. Why even pretend democracy is still breathing in America? The system is bought and paid for, and they give zero farts about everyday Americans
ReplyDeleteWho writes this garbage. They know full well it will not be one minute after midnight. Canada maybe, but not the US. Their electoral system is so ridiculously slow and will probably be worse this time thanks to the lies Trump and his entourage have been spewing. Remember Americans carry guns.
ReplyDeleteor the lies Kamala and her handlers are spewing? Open them peepers, its all a bag of no good corruption, either side
DeleteIt will take about a week.....someone will claim rigging, then more ballots will be found and recount after recount and that will finally be it...
ReplyDeleteits all a show, the voters do the dance, the corruption decides the winner
DeleteIf Trump's traditional under polling is realized in this election, the election will be called by midnight.
ReplyDeleteIf media outlets are staying unbiased, then they are afraid.
ReplyDeleteAs long as they do not keep burning up mail boxes it should be fairly quickly I would think.
ReplyDelete0 evidence of this, and if you're seeing "burned" mail boxes on right wing media, its fabricated. Nothing has been proven in court, and Trumps claims on this has 0 merit.
DeleteIt's going to be a while, because maga is going to do everything they can to disrupt ballot counting, and then they're going to claim, "something fishy here, why is it taking so long? fraud! fraud!"
ReplyDeleteprojecting, a democrat flaw, really amusing though, worth a chuckle
DeleteMe too, I'm not a Democrat.
DeleteHaven't even proven the first, and now moving on to the second?? Why not one at a time?
DeleteThe first what?
DeleteIt was over quickly when Donald Trump trounced Hillary Clinton. I'm expecting the same results.
ReplyDeleteweird only the swing states need some extra time?
ReplyDeleteThats what the so-called Swing States are intended.. to throw the election... either direction!
Deletethat makes zero sense? it does not take longer to count a vote dependent on a tight race? you open the vote and tally it.
DeleteIt takes longer to count 2 million votes then 500,000 votes, right?
Deleteim sure it would but explain how they can count the 17 million votes in california(2020 numbers) quicker than the 7 million in pennsylvania?
Deletenot in BC. Takes 10 days to do 11 ridings where only two were recounts out of 3 millionish voters across the province
DeleteUh yes it does, if its tight race, recounts happen to verify, especially if its only by a few votes. If its a landslide 1 way, recounts don't happen. Its again, very simple logic.
DeleteDifferent systems and rules.
DeleteCan't wait to see the % of mail in votes in favour of the Dems this year, should be another record I would assume!
ReplyDeletetime will tell
DeleteI bet if the majority were republican, you'd say its legit. But because this is a Trump supporter, he's going to believe Trumps false "rigged" election claims. It's ridiculous, and he's already planning to do it again to attempt to overthrow democracy. It's crazy that people still support the orange clown.
DeleteYET DEMS CRIED THE EXACT SAME THING WHEN TRUMP WON?
DeletePretty sure they were saying that in 2020 and in 2016. Can't pick and choose when both do it
DeleteA Republican already tried ! Got caught.
DeleteUh no, they didn't. They did not bring a ton of frivolous lawsuits to court like Trump did. maybe some upset people said that, but their opinions dont mean much. TRUMP personally made false claims. So please, stop trying to spin the story.
DeleteWhat? Trump and republicans were saying that in 2020. That was not being said in 2016, the transition of power happened, and that was that. 2020 was when Trump brought a ton of baseless lawsuits to the courts and threw a temper tantrum, almost not transitioning power until he was forced too. Big difference.
DeleteTalk about spin.
DeleteShort memory too. They started trying to impeach Trump the day he was inaugurated in 2016 - to this day, criminal Clinton says the election was stolen from her.
DeleteHillary and co said the same thing Trump did from 2020 in 2016. Regardless, the two party system is a complete sham, keep being distracted by all of the jargon.
DeleteMy point about the mail in ballots was true, when they counted the % of mail in ballots of who voted Dem and who voted Republican was over 90% Dem, prove that those were legit, but of course, they cant.
Not only did Hillary say he cheated on her, she literally tried to destroy him with the Dossier. She lost both times. I've been, along with many others, have been watching a political hit job for four years and i truly think he'll win again
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ReplyDeleteI wonder how big of a temper tantrum these soft lefties (dems) are going to have...burn down some more businesses maybe...ya never know with these fools.
ReplyDeleteyes.......storm and try to take over the Capitol again!!
DeleteOh no, Wait...That wasn't the dems was it? Who was that again?? Could it be???? YES, I think it was!!
Enough of mail in phone in drive in or what ever! A PERSON GOES TO THEIR ASSINED POLLING STATION SHOW I.D. GETS BALLOT AND VOTES! Then the count contiues liove until it is over! no pauses no wait untiil tommow ! THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO KEEP IT ON THE UP AND UP
ReplyDeletethe dems have the big cheat in play again
ReplyDeleteIt will be over by 10:30.
ReplyDeletesoon as it all goes red
ReplyDeletelong b4 Trump wins...
ReplyDeletelet truth b told , we know last 4 years living make belief , we know..
DeleteSpoiler Alert: Harris is the next President of the USA.
ReplyDeleteYou saw it here first.
You are welcome!
Appreciate the update! Let us hope
Deleteamazing that referring to the cbc as TURDeau's propaganda machine and protecting his back while allowing him to get away with blatant corruption upset someone and they kicked off the first comment. Pretty sure this one will be gone as well.
ReplyDeletewon't be getting my updates from cbc that's for sure !
ReplyDeleteLike who really cares. The CBC (Toronto gang) are so focused on the US, instead of all the corruption in Canadian politics. Jeez, they even have a reporter, in Washington, who looks like Donald's twin sister
ReplyDeleteMail in voting should be Banned !!
ReplyDeleteTRUMP WILL WIN.
ReplyDeleteI see opinions are now being removed if you don't go along with the narrative
ReplyDeleteIt's to be expected. After all, they've had 4 years to perfect their cheating tactics.
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