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10,000 INR for 128 gb more storage is hilarious lol, how scummy. I think 256 gb should be the new normal for phones, but Apple is always far behind at specs.
What do we think happens in September? The 17 comes out and the other ones drop $100 in price as usual? Or the 15 goes away and the 16 drops in price and the 16e just stays the same?
They stop producing the 15 models and force people to upgrade to the latest ones if they want the latest AI feature shit. They keep the 16e at $599 and do not lower the price until the following year.
I bought the se for the low priced entry point phone to pair with my other Apple products. This is not what I was hoping for. I’d rather have less features and the $499 price point.
Agreed. The whole point of the SE series is to provide an affordable way to experience the Apple ecosystem, and the 16E doesn't fit in that category in my opinion (which is probably why Apple named this phone the 16E instead of the SE 4, even though ths phone is still considered a new SE generation).
The last two iPhone SE is really cheap because it reuses a lot of parts from 2017 iPhone 8 and it is not sustainable at this point. The last update is not really great because the battery is really small and the camera is the same from iPhone 8 in 2017 without night mode. The price increase probably due to the OLED screen and new camera. The new design probably also increase the manufacture cost since they have to adjust the iPhone 14 product line to product it.
I’m disappointed in the lack of MagSafe. In fact it has me worried about the new iPhones this fall. However, it does have a limited wireless charging speed. That gives me hope that the “flagship” iPhones this fall will in fact still be MagSafe compatible… but Apple does weird stuff sometimes
Is this a serious comment? They removed it because it’s an entry level device and no SE so far has had MagSafe. It has nothing to do with the 17 lineup.
It’s not absurd. iPhone isn’t even the best phone out. Apple Intelligence is still in a beta phase. They tricked you into thinking the price should be higher for a premium product.
Also disappointed, Germany price starts although at 699 Euro. This is a price increase 34,6% to last SE. SE (2022) started at 519 Euro. SE (2020) started at 479 Euro (my current phone).
Honestly I kinda like it. I have a 13 right now that I can probably sell for €250-€300 next year. Using my works phone budget I can buy this one for only a bit extra. And the features are adequate but not too much.
The naming scheme IMO makes ZERO sense unless we get a new one every year. And for $599, it should have had the dynamic Island. Let alone the $699 and $899 prices for storage bumps. And no 120hz display? Unless I missed this on apples site???
Android offers much better handsets at those prices and lower. Getting harder to recommend an iPhone now a days.
In europe this phone sell for 719€! That is more than the current iphone 15 prices here. You would have to be very stupid to buy the 16E. The 15 is way better…
I think what we’re getting at is it’s presumptuous to use a relatively framed statement here. It would be better to say “Apple unveils a new $599 iPhone 16e”. Then we can make of it what we will as readers.
“Apple announced a new iPhone model on Wednesday that is priced lower than its main iPhone models, which usually come out in September.
The new iPhone is called iPhone 16e, and it will retail for $599 when it goes on sale later this month.
The new iPhone 16e doesn’t have a home button and fingerprint sensor, instead, it uses Apple’s FaceID scanner and modern design including a sensor notch at the top of the screen. It uses Apple’s A18 chip, which is also used in the main iPhone 16 models. The updated processor means that the iPhone 16e can run all the same apps and games that more expensive iPhones can run. It comes in black and white”
Plus that 13 to 17 is only 4 gens of iPhones. You could easily skip it for a few years to come. I'm on base 12 and I will upgrade when AI is much more stable and built into the phone.
It’s a downgrade in some areas (screen tech, camera array), but an upgrade in others (chip, connector, camera mp). Also, price. 16 pro isn’t a 999$ better phone than 13 pro. But if, as leaks suggested, u could get a 16e for 200$ (w 13 pro trade-in), thats an incredible value for what u do get (an incredibly future proof iphone).
This is where I am at. I want to upgrade but I don’t like being stuck with eSIM. Wondering if getting an overseas iPhone that still has the physical sim to use in the U.S. will be a good option
My 13 Pro works flawlessly and I still like it. I also own a Pixel 7a as secondary device and currently tend to upgrade to a Pixel 9/10 (Pro) as it feels like Apple lost its way…
Same here but I’ve been using the base Cobalt Violet S24 as my secondary device. And it’s been great! It has more features than my 13 Pro & it’s reallyyy nice in the hand. It’s such a better price for what you’re getting too compared to a new Pro iPhone. Getting the S24 was my first step out of the Apple ecosystem, I think my next phone will be a Pixel or OnePlus as I want to know/experience what else is out there before settling!
Why replace your 13? Is there any specific reason you're urged to buy a new phone? Is it just USB-C?
I see all this as a glass half full: the longer Apple keeps releasing mediocre phones, the more money I save by keeping my 13 around.
I'm still super happy with it. iOS 18 is buggy as hell, but that's not the phone's fault. I was considering the 16e as a secondary work phone, but not at that insane price.
Honestly yea, it’s just usbc 😂 All of my other devices charge via usbc, down to my cats’ toys, so I’m anxious to ditch lighting asap. But I agree with your sentiment, the 13 pro’s longevity is impressive (coming from someone who used to “upgrade” every other year).
I used to be someone who would upgrade every year or every other year, but I think I’ll hold onto to the 13pro for a while more. My dream phone is the mini size with 13pro specs (or better). Maybe one day…
I owned Pixels for years and moved to 13 pro refurb from Apple last year. It is a MUCH better phone than anything Google has put out. No chance I would go back.
You are right the 16e is underwhelming. The deal breaker for me is no MagSafe.
Give it a year or two and get a 15 or 16 pro refurb.
I was just reading all about the phone and really the SoC is better and the battery will be better and it will have Apple intelligence and a action button.
But in other areas 13 Pro is better (to me at least).
I got to say I find it funny that apple is fully embracing USB C and it's being used as a selling point for the 16e as if it is a feature. Yes it is a feature technically but they only added it to iPhone models in the first place due to the European Union and the fines they were going to receive unless they changed their charging point.
Now they've manipulated this into a marketing win.
With that C modem I might have to get the 17 Pro this year, apple claims it improves battery life and if the speeds are great, I’ll upgrade BUT for now 13 Pro for now 4 years running
the 13 pro has essentially become my secondary phone, as I recently "upgraded" to a s23 ultra. a lot of people I know default to iMessage, so fwiw, the 13 pro will satisfy my needs for a good while. if anything, I can always upgrade to a 14 pro for ~150 usd after selling my 13 pro, but only when that time comes.
I’m a 13P as well as a 16P user, I’m thanking myself that i got the 16P, coz as Apple is releasing new phones the value for money and the Apple vibe for me is just degrading…
I was soooo looking forward to this one, finally a normal sized iphone with a single camera. But no magsafe at this price point is such a dick move from Apple
Hi iPhone 16 Pro user here! I’ve had the 13 Pro from January 2022 till September 2024. It definitely is a difference but after a month it’s not that special and not a big of a change after all. I love the 16 Pro but the 13 Pro also did the job. If I were u, u should wait for the 17 (Pro). All the rumours that im hearing rn about the upcoming series is bigger than the last few years with the 14/15/16.
I’m not sure why 13 Pro owners are looking at the 16e? It clearly is NOT meant as a replacement for our phones. It is an upgrade for anyone coming from an older iPhone SE.
I know I’m not in the market for the iPhone 16e. I buy Pro iPhones because I care about all the little things and the iPhone 16e is for users who care about price over all the nice to haves.
I am a bit nervous about the iPhone 17 Pro/Pro Max. Mainly because Apple tends to need one more iteration after introducing any substantially new design to smooth out rough edges. I don’t really want to wait one MORE year for the iPhone 18 Pro but I have a feeling that is going to be the next 13 pro (ie notably better than the releases immediately before and after it).
Happily had my iPhone 13 Pro since launch, and will give it at least another year until I think about upgrading. With the disappointment of the 16e and Apple’s apparent lack of care for iOS stability in favour of crappy Apple Intelligence, I’m now pretty seriously considering other options outside of the walled garden.
For me it hit that critical mass of gaming performance and doesn't have a superfluous amount to play those AAA games that really have no business being on a phone.
If my phone exploded tomorrow I'd probably go for a mid range android phone just to try it out but I hear their software shits itself in two years time
I compared my 13 Pro with the 16e on the Apple shop site and the “upgrade” isn’t worth it. Battery life would be longer but losing pro res and the cameras wouldn’t be worth it. Also not interested in AI. So I’ll stick with my 13 Pro and change the battery when the time comes.
Planning to do the same. I’ve never used MagSafe but the one camera design is not to my appeal and the lack of an x0,5 camera to take funny pictures of my cat is also a bit of a dealbreaker
I occasionally use my phone without a case and I’d prefer not to add a MagSafe ring to it. Why should I have to come up with a solution to a problem that didn’t exist before
New device itch, but you’re right. There’s really no reason to move to it, save for maybe USB-C. X was my last phone prior to this and I’d argue the 13pro doesn’t even feel like a significant jump from that.
I have been trying to stick with this phone for a long as possible. The battery is probably the only thing that I have issues with now even after replacing it, but it’s really not that bad. Otherwise the phone is very capable and I should really run it until it dies.
Same! I invested a lot in MagSafe! I have the official portable battery pack; MagSafe charger stand for the phone and watch; a MagSafe docking station…
It just feels like pointless product segmentation. For the 80%+ of people who use a phone case, it's trivial to add magsafe back in. Hell, as an Android user, I've had "magsafe" cases on my phones since the S21.
What a waste of time & money, apple had a perfect chance to win a ton of consumers making a “budget” model (successor to the SE) but of course they pulled an Apple
I’d rather they simplify the lineup & kill the 15 as well & make the 16e exist
They will, but then they’d still sell 16s. The point is by the time the 17 launches, they’ll still have 16s available just like right now where the 15s are still available in the 16 lifecycle
Why would they “simplify the lineup” when they have normal price tiering, device by device.
What happened is that they made a device that is no longer a huge outlier. It now looks like it belongs in the lineup. The name itself is just marketing.
I’m still gonna buy it, as the 256gb is STILL $200 cheaper than the 16 256gb. I don’t use the “MagSafe” at all on my current iPhone, so it’s not a huge loss for me being that the 16e won’t have it. I’m more hyped that the camera is 48mp and it will be able to do ALL the Apple Intelligence features and it has the Action button
magsafe is one of those features where if you dont use it much or at all (or have the right accessories) you dont know what you’re missing and are fine with it. im in the other camp. cant live without it
Yeah, I understand completely what you mean. For me personally being somebody that has tried it, but just hasn’t found the real day to day use for it. That’s why it’s not a huge loss for me like I don’t even do the MagSafe charging, I charge my phone with the wire plug straight into my phone lol
For me personally I just don’t see paying another $40-$50 for the MagSafe charger/cord alone when my current $20 dollar apple 20w brick does just fine lol. Like I even bought the iPhone 16 from Apple 2wks ago just for the new AI features I had it for a week then returned it when the rumors came in with the specs for the new iPhone se4/16e leaked. I had the 16 256gb model totaling to $982 after taxes. Now I can get the 16e have the same Apple Intelligence features, same 6.1 60hz screen, and have the same 48mp camera for $200 less.
I never thought I would use MagSafe until I got gifted a car mount that goes on my AC grill. I love it and I love how simple it is compared to past car mounts
Thought id want this phone for my grandparents so they wouldn’t have to struggle with plugging in their current SEs anymore. They aren’t usually good at aligning them to the wireless charger I gave them. With no MagSafe on this, I’m bigly disappointed.
Something no one considers is that a number of people (especially on older side) are no longer able to purchase iPhones due to MagSafe. MagSafe can interfere with pacemakers so Apple recommends keeping the phone away at least 12 inches, which isn’t always possible.
My car charger uses magnets to hold my phone while I navigate with gps (and obviously charge)— I’m gutted this was looking to be the perfect upgrade for me
just Apple being Apple. Without cutting this feature, this one would be too similar to the base 16. I will probably get one "for free" through my workplace in a few months (my 13 mini's battery is aging), but the idea of switching back to a traditional non-magsafe wallet.... ugh...
what the fuck? i thought they wanted it to be part of their standard moving forward. pretty odd to leave all those customers out of a lot of their accessories on a phone theyre offering in 2025
Others are saying it can still wirelessly charge, right? So, would it still have the magnets to align with a wireless charger like the Belkin MagSafe Charger 3-in-1 but not use the tracking features of the Apple wallet? Or is it no wireless charging period? Are their cases that have a thin USB-C cable with an attachment built in to enable wireless charging?
No mmWave, no MagSafe, only WiFi 6, and even with the “most efficient” modem in this phone still overall has less battery life than the normal 16. I would rather pay $200 more and get the normal 16.
I knew it wouldn’t happen but I really wanted a physical sim tray. E Sims are great but are often still more expensive than buying cheap local sim and plan
Damn. That’s a dealbreaker .. I want to have this for my kid as nightstand etc , and he already had a MagSafe powerbank. Too bad , what’s the magnets, a dollar ?!
Honestly, you do you if you like MagSafe but I’ve never seen the point of it.
I’ve used a MagSafe charger. It has zero benefits over a regular charger — you still have to be next to a plug, but it’s also harder to pick up and use your phone while keeping it charging, it charges slower and it makes my phone super hot. I also save a ton of money on cases by buying $10 ones on Amazon that aren’t MagSafe compatible.
I don’t need a car mount because I use CarPlay with a wired connection.
I don't really care about the charging speed, but I do care about the magnets. I have a 13 Mini with a failing battery and, despite still wanting the mini form factor, I was pretty set to upgrade to the new SE, now 16e, to get more battery life & support for Apple's AI (not for today, but for future updates). I can get by with the other "SE" downgrades, but I use MagSafe a lot outside of just charging (wallet, car mount, desk stand, TV & monitor mounts for continuity camera, tripod, other mounts I have installed around my house).
The 16e looks to be using a 14 form factor, so the magnets should fit, and the cost would have to be negligible, especially when they have increased the price from the SE anyway. It's just a very annoying omission.
If no one has figured out this phone is more for older people that don’t care about features like MagSafe. It’s a fair price, could be cheaper but prices aren’t going down, have you bought eggs recently
This is kind of bullshit. I actually recently got a MagSafe charger in part because I was expecting to use it with this phone. I figured regardless of whatever else it may or may not have, it would at least have this very basic feature.
All the screens in the promotional video on the iPhone have April 1st 9:41 on it, normally the date represents the date it is revealed, making it 6 weeks early
The lack of MagSafe has me worried about the new iPhones this fall. However, it does have a limited wireless charging speed. That gives me hope that the “flagship” iPhones this fall will in fact still be MagSafe compatible… but Apple does weird stuff sometimes
Well, this is not really "affordable".
ReplyDeleteMaybe affordable for Americans… but not for the rest of the world.
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ReplyDelete10,000 INR for 128 gb more storage is hilarious lol, how scummy. I think 256 gb should be the new normal for phones, but Apple is always far behind at specs.
ReplyDelete499 would have a fire 🔥 price, but that would have killed the 16 series
ReplyDeleteWhat do we think happens in September? The 17 comes out and the other ones drop $100 in price as usual? Or the 15 goes away and the 16 drops in price and the 16e just stays the same?
DeleteThey stop producing the 15 models and force people to upgrade to the latest ones if they want the latest AI feature shit. They keep the 16e at $599 and do not lower the price until the following year.
Deleteit 128gb that's why before it was 64 only
ReplyDeleteRespectfully, that doesn't explain the $170 price bump, but it definitely is one of the reasons to why this phone costs more than its predecessor.
DeleteDoubling the memory probably cost Apple like $0.75 per unit.
DeleteThis isn't meant to replace the SE its meant to replace the iPhone 14 they were still selling until today
ReplyDeleteIs it supposed to be a replacement for both phones? I can't find the SE 2022 on Apple's website either.
DeleteThought I heard both to get them selling back in the EU again?
DeleteStop moaning. And where did Apple say this was an ‘affordable’ iPhone?
ReplyDeleteThey advertised it as a good price or something.
DeleteIt is a good price. Stop moaning.
DeleteSo they can freely bump the prices however they want? lol, jesus some diehard fans can't really criticize their favorite company, right?
DeleteWhat the fuck are you on about? They can charge whatever price they fucking like. It’s not a charity. Stop moaning.
DeleteYeah, sure. Don't have the money? Fuck off! Like your sentiment there!
DeleteSwitch to Android :)
DeleteFor real... This man is that stereotypical Apple fanboy.
DeleteDick eater
DeleteI bought the se for the low priced entry point phone to pair with my other Apple products. This is not what I was hoping for. I’d rather have less features and the $499 price point.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. The whole point of the SE series is to provide an affordable way to experience the Apple ecosystem, and the 16E doesn't fit in that category in my opinion (which is probably why Apple named this phone the 16E instead of the SE 4, even though ths phone is still considered a new SE generation).
DeleteThe last two iPhone SE is really cheap because it reuses a lot of parts from 2017 iPhone 8 and it is not sustainable at this point. The last update is not really great because the battery is really small and the camera is the same from iPhone 8 in 2017 without night mode. The price increase probably due to the OLED screen and new camera. The new design probably also increase the manufacture cost since they have to adjust the iPhone 14 product line to product it.
DeleteAgreed.
DeleteI’m disappointed in the lack of MagSafe. In fact it has me worried about the new iPhones this fall. However, it does have a limited wireless charging speed. That gives me hope that the “flagship” iPhones this fall will in fact still be MagSafe compatible… but Apple does weird stuff sometimes
ReplyDeleteNo way MagSafe goes away. This is just cost saving. Magnets are pretty expensive relatively speaking
DeleteIs this a serious comment? They removed it because it’s an entry level device and no SE so far has had MagSafe. It has nothing to do with the 17 lineup.
DeleteAnd it doesn’t have MagSafe.
ReplyDeletePeople who buy this phone can’t afford the MagSafe charger anyway
Delete349 would have been fair value. 599 is absurd
ReplyDelete349 is a little absurd for an iPhone. The 2022 SE was 429 and that was before three years of inflation
DeleteIt’s not absurd. iPhone isn’t even the best phone out. Apple Intelligence is still in a beta phase. They tricked you into thinking the price should be higher for a premium product.
DeleteFacts...
DeleteAlso disappointed, Germany price starts although at 699 Euro. This is a price increase 34,6% to last SE. SE (2022) started at 519 Euro. SE (2020) started at 479 Euro (my current phone).
DeleteFair economic price for my is around 550 Euro.
Honestly I kinda like it. I have a 13 right now that I can probably sell for €250-€300 next year. Using my works phone budget I can buy this one for only a bit extra. And the features are adequate but not too much.
ReplyDeleteThe naming scheme IMO makes ZERO sense unless we get a new one every year. And for $599, it should have had the dynamic Island. Let alone the $699 and $899 prices for storage bumps. And no 120hz display? Unless I missed this on apples site???
ReplyDeleteAndroid offers much better handsets at those prices and lower. Getting harder to recommend an iPhone now a days.
In europe this phone sell for 719€! That is more than the current iphone 15 prices here. You would have to be very stupid to buy the 16E. The 15 is way better…
ReplyDeleteWait until you get a good look at the crippled feature set. You’ll be even more disappointed once you realize how bad they are screwing the customer.
ReplyDeleteFor real... Four GPU cores instead of five on the 16, and no dynamic island. This phone isn't worth the money, in my opinion.
DeleteAlso no MagSafe with a maximum 7.5w for wireless charging.
DeleteI think the drump's tariffs are a factor in the price.
ReplyDeleteGreedy cunts
ReplyDeleteCheap is a relative term here...
ReplyDelete.... which is why it says cheaper, not cheap.
DeleteReading is fundamental, y'all.
Cheaper is a relative term here…
Delete...... cheaper is always a relative term. That's literally what the suffix -er means. It only has meaning in relation to something else.
DeleteI think what we’re getting at is it’s presumptuous to use a relatively framed statement here. It would be better to say “Apple unveils a new $599 iPhone 16e”. Then we can make of it what we will as readers.
Delete“Apple announced a new iPhone model on Wednesday that is priced lower than its main iPhone models, which usually come out in September.
ReplyDeleteThe new iPhone is called iPhone 16e, and it will retail for $599 when it goes on sale later this month.
The new iPhone 16e doesn’t have a home button and fingerprint sensor, instead, it uses Apple’s FaceID scanner and modern design including a sensor notch at the top of the screen. It uses Apple’s A18 chip, which is also used in the main iPhone 16 models. The updated processor means that the iPhone 16e can run all the same apps and games that more expensive iPhones can run. It comes in black and white”
hmmm, maybe i will try apple again
ReplyDeleteCalls on APPL
ReplyDeleteThe starting price is $599, which is wild to me
ReplyDeleteGlad I waited
Deletethe main feature seems to be ai but ai on phones isn’t even impressive yet
ReplyDeleteAs a Iphone 13 pro owner. 60 Hz really downgrade. i dont uderstand cheap android phones have this feature.
ReplyDeleteI understand it more on a cheap android than a 500$ iphone
DeleteWhy would a pro phone owner be excited for an E version? Of course it would be a downgrade.
ReplyDeletePlus that 13 to 17 is only 4 gens of iPhones. You could easily skip it for a few years to come. I'm on base 12 and I will upgrade when AI is much more stable and built into the phone.
DeleteIt’s a downgrade in some areas (screen tech, camera array), but an upgrade in others (chip, connector, camera mp). Also, price. 16 pro isn’t a 999$ better phone than 13 pro. But if, as leaks suggested, u could get a 16e for 200$ (w 13 pro trade-in), thats an incredible value for what u do get (an incredibly future proof iphone).
DeleteThe only upgrade I can see really is built in AI. Which is not ready yet.
Deletedepends of the number too lol
DeleteNo need to upgrade. replace your battery and save your money.
ReplyDeleteThis is where I am at. I want to upgrade but I don’t like being stuck with eSIM. Wondering if getting an overseas iPhone that still has the physical sim to use in the U.S. will be a good option
DeleteMy 13 Pro works flawlessly and I still like it. I also own a Pixel 7a as secondary device and currently tend to upgrade to a Pixel 9/10 (Pro) as it feels like Apple lost its way…
ReplyDeleteSame here but I’ve been using the base Cobalt Violet S24 as my secondary device. And it’s been great! It has more features than my 13 Pro & it’s reallyyy nice in the hand. It’s such a better price for what you’re getting too compared to a new Pro iPhone. Getting the S24 was my first step out of the Apple ecosystem, I think my next phone will be a Pixel or OnePlus as I want to know/experience what else is out there before settling!
DeleteWhy replace your 13? Is there any specific reason you're urged to buy a new phone? Is it just USB-C?
ReplyDeleteI see all this as a glass half full: the longer Apple keeps releasing mediocre phones, the more money I save by keeping my 13 around.
I'm still super happy with it. iOS 18 is buggy as hell, but that's not the phone's fault. I was considering the 16e as a secondary work phone, but not at that insane price.
Honestly yea, it’s just usbc 😂 All of my other devices charge via usbc, down to my cats’ toys, so I’m anxious to ditch lighting asap. But I agree with your sentiment, the 13 pro’s longevity is impressive (coming from someone who used to “upgrade” every other year).
DeleteI used to be someone who would upgrade every year or every other year, but I think I’ll hold onto to the 13pro for a while more. My dream phone is the mini size with 13pro specs (or better). Maybe one day…
ReplyDeleteSame. Give me the mini pro version and I’ll trade my life savings lol
DeleteI typically upgrade 2-4 years. My iPhone 13 Pro is feeling a bit slow and outdated. Really looking forward to the 17 pro.
ReplyDeleteI owned Pixels for years and moved to 13 pro refurb from Apple last year. It is a MUCH better phone than anything Google has put out. No chance I would go back.
ReplyDeleteYou are right the 16e is underwhelming. The deal breaker for me is no MagSafe.
Give it a year or two and get a 15 or 16 pro refurb.
Is the 13 pro has an aftermarket battery?
DeleteI bought it refurb’ed from Apple direct. They put a new battery in all refurb units. It’s a great deal and I have no complaints.
DeleteI was just reading all about the phone and really the SoC is better and the battery will be better and it will have Apple intelligence and a action button.
ReplyDeleteBut in other areas 13 Pro is better (to me at least).
I got to say I find it funny that apple is fully embracing USB C and it's being used as a selling point for the 16e as if it is a feature. Yes it is a feature technically but they only added it to iPhone models in the first place due to the European Union and the fines they were going to receive unless they changed their charging point.
Now they've manipulated this into a marketing win.
I don’t understand the appeal of this at 600 compared to 700 for the 15
ReplyDeleteThe 15 is dropped now.
DeleteReally? I can still see it for sale on the US website.
DeleteThe only real pull could be Apple Intelligence support, for those who are interested, that is. 😉
DeleteWith that C modem I might have to get the 17 Pro this year, apple claims it improves battery life and if the speeds are great, I’ll upgrade BUT for now 13 Pro for now 4 years running
ReplyDeletethe 13 pro has essentially become my secondary phone, as I recently "upgraded" to a s23 ultra. a lot of people I know default to iMessage, so fwiw, the 13 pro will satisfy my needs for a good while. if anything, I can always upgrade to a 14 pro for ~150 usd after selling my 13 pro, but only when that time comes.
ReplyDeleteI’m a 13P as well as a 16P user, I’m thanking myself that i got the 16P, coz as Apple is releasing new phones the value for money and the Apple vibe for me is just degrading…
ReplyDeleteI was soooo looking forward to this one, finally a normal sized iphone with a single camera. But no magsafe at this price point is such a dick move from Apple
ReplyDeleteI want to upgrade from my old Samsung Galaxy S10 Lite and not sure to pick a new iPhone 13 or buy a Pixel 8 or 8 Pro...
ReplyDeleteHi iPhone 16 Pro user here! I’ve had the 13 Pro from January 2022 till September 2024. It definitely is a difference but after a month it’s not that special and not a big of a change after all. I love the 16 Pro but the 13 Pro also did the job. If I were u, u should wait for the 17 (Pro). All the rumours that im hearing rn about the upcoming series is bigger than the last few years with the 14/15/16.
ReplyDeletehold on your 13 pro the 16e compares w 11,12,12mini not even 13 i have gone into the details of the specs
ReplyDeleteI don’t like that camera bar either.
ReplyDeleteI’m not sure why 13 Pro owners are looking at the 16e? It clearly is NOT meant as a replacement for our phones. It is an upgrade for anyone coming from an older iPhone SE.
ReplyDeleteI know I’m not in the market for the iPhone 16e. I buy Pro iPhones because I care about all the little things and the iPhone 16e is for users who care about price over all the nice to haves.
I am a bit nervous about the iPhone 17 Pro/Pro Max. Mainly because Apple tends to need one more iteration after introducing any substantially new design to smooth out rough edges. I don’t really want to wait one MORE year for the iPhone 18 Pro but I have a feeling that is going to be the next 13 pro (ie notably better than the releases immediately before and after it).
I would probably get the iPhone 16e after Apple breaks my iPhone 13 Pro while replacing it’s battery.
ReplyDeleteMan all of these phones are the same. I’m keeping this phone (13pro) until they change it up. Thank you Apple
ReplyDelete100% agree. Only reason I was even considering “upgrading” was for usbc
DeleteHappily had my iPhone 13 Pro since launch, and will give it at least another year until I think about upgrading. With the disappointment of the 16e and Apple’s apparent lack of care for iOS stability in favour of crappy Apple Intelligence, I’m now pretty seriously considering other options outside of the walled garden.
ReplyDeletePrices of new 15 Pros are falling and falling. Maybe you can get the a great deal ?
ReplyDelete13pro is just too good.
ReplyDeleteFor me it hit that critical mass of gaming performance and doesn't have a superfluous amount to play those AAA games that really have no business being on a phone.
If my phone exploded tomorrow I'd probably go for a mid range android phone just to try it out but I hear their software shits itself in two years time
If they released 120hz on the 16e I’d instantly downgrade from the 16 pro and go for that.
ReplyDeleteI just traded in my cracked 13 Pro for a 16 Pro with AT&T for the full value of a non-damaged trade-in.
ReplyDeleteIt was cheaper in the long run to do so than replace the screen.
The 16e has no value to me.
I don’t mind MOST of the 16e. The kicker for me was no ultra wideband support..
ReplyDeleteI compared my 13 Pro with the 16e on the Apple shop site and the “upgrade” isn’t worth it. Battery life would be longer but losing pro res and the cameras wouldn’t be worth it. Also not interested in AI. So I’ll stick with my 13 Pro and change the battery when the time comes.
ReplyDeleteI knew it had to be gimped somehow for the 15 & 16 to still make sense, but I did not expect that.
ReplyDeleteI mean I doubt that the single camera will be very good for low light stuff
DeleteWas so ready to ditch my 12 mini for this but no MagSafe is a deal breaker. Now I’ll for sure run my mini into the ground
ReplyDeletePlanning to do the same. I’ve never used MagSafe but the one camera design is not to my appeal and the lack of an x0,5 camera to take funny pictures of my cat is also a bit of a dealbreaker
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DeleteYou will be able to still use magsafe cases or even stick the magaafe ring on it.....
DeleteThe magsafe wallet won’t work correctly though. You won’t get the Find My support. I’m sure there are other examples, too.
DeleteI’m not sure what you mean?
DeleteI occasionally use my phone without a case and I’d prefer not to add a MagSafe ring to it. Why should I have to come up with a solution to a problem that didn’t exist before
DeleteMan, I was hoping to move from a 13pro to this. But the no MagSafe is indeed a deal breaker. Otherwise I’d be happy.
ReplyDeleteAnd this is exactly the point.
DeleteThey don’t want this phone appearing like a perfect upgrade at a better price for anyone upgrading from a 12-14
I figured the camera would be enough
Just wondering why you want to switch from the 13 pro? It honestly seems better in every way to this.
DeleteNew device itch, but you’re right. There’s really no reason to move to it, save for maybe USB-C. X was my last phone prior to this and I’d argue the 13pro doesn’t even feel like a significant jump from that.
DeleteI have been trying to stick with this phone for a long as possible. The battery is probably the only thing that I have issues with now even after replacing it, but it’s really not that bad. Otherwise the phone is very capable and I should really run it until it dies.
Same here. Too many limitations and price is too high. Would just rather get the iPhone 16 instead.
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DeleteSame! I invested a lot in MagSafe! I have the official portable battery pack; MagSafe charger stand for the phone and watch; a MagSafe docking station…
I’ll just buy a used iPhone 15 or something.
It just feels like pointless product segmentation. For the 80%+ of people who use a phone case, it's trivial to add magsafe back in. Hell, as an Android user, I've had "magsafe" cases on my phones since the S21.
DeleteThis is a very deliberate choice.
ReplyDeleteA calculated omission, to drive people to the other phones
Imagine how their lineup is going to appear in stores now.
This phone won’t be sat on a MagSafe type stand the way all the newer flagship phones are.
It will sit off to the side on one of those old school charging docks.
When a customer goes to pick it up it will feel older immediately than the phones that magically/magnetically clip on and off.
iphone 16e has a USB-C port so it won't fit the old lightning docks lolllll
DeleteWhat docks? Apple is picky with how it displays its phones and there no such thing as usb c dock from Apple.
Deletethey use proprietary MagSafe stands in the stores... they will have some sort of USB-C Dock built into their tables before long too
DeleteI sorta doubt the 16e will just be laying on the tables connected via usb-c
apple will still want it upright on some kind of stand
I think this is the right take. I hope so otherwise this fall is gonna be a weird one for iPhone releases
DeleteWhat a waste of time & money, apple had a perfect chance to win a ton of consumers making a “budget” model (successor to the SE) but of course they pulled an Apple
ReplyDeleteI’d rather they simplify the lineup & kill the 15 as well & make the 16e exist
They will most likely kill the 15 in September, when the 17 family launches.
DeleteThey will, but then they’d still sell 16s. The point is by the time the 17 launches, they’ll still have 16s available just like right now where the 15s are still available in the 16 lifecycle
DeleteWhy would they “simplify the lineup” when they have normal price tiering, device by device.
DeleteWhat happened is that they made a device that is no longer a huge outlier. It now looks like it belongs in the lineup. The name itself is just marketing.
ok that doesn’t mean it isn’t overpriced by itself
DeleteI’m still gonna buy it, as the 256gb is STILL $200 cheaper than the 16 256gb. I don’t use the “MagSafe” at all on my current iPhone, so it’s not a huge loss for me being that the 16e won’t have it. I’m more hyped that the camera is 48mp and it will be able to do ALL the Apple Intelligence features and it has the Action button
ReplyDeletemagsafe is one of those features where if you dont use it much or at all (or have the right accessories) you dont know what you’re missing and are fine with it. im in the other camp. cant live without it
DeleteYeah, I understand completely what you mean. For me personally being somebody that has tried it, but just hasn’t found the real day to day use for it. That’s why it’s not a huge loss for me like I don’t even do the MagSafe charging, I charge my phone with the wire plug straight into my phone lol
Deleteyour phone charges faster, so at least there is that 🙂
DeleteFor me personally I just don’t see paying another $40-$50 for the MagSafe charger/cord alone when my current $20 dollar apple 20w brick does just fine lol. Like I even bought the iPhone 16 from Apple 2wks ago just for the new AI features I had it for a week then returned it when the rumors came in with the specs for the new iPhone se4/16e leaked. I had the 16 256gb model totaling to $982 after taxes. Now I can get the 16e have the same Apple Intelligence features, same 6.1 60hz screen, and have the same 48mp camera for $200 less.
DeleteI never thought I would use MagSafe until I got gifted a car mount that goes on my AC grill. I love it and I love how simple it is compared to past car mounts
DeleteI never used it so it doesn't bother me.
ReplyDeleteThought id want this phone for my grandparents so they wouldn’t have to struggle with plugging in their current SEs anymore. They aren’t usually good at aligning them to the wireless charger I gave them. With no MagSafe on this, I’m bigly disappointed.
ReplyDeleteQi2 cases are easy to find, but you can stick a metal ring on any phone. They come in multi-packs.
DeleteI might do this, i have one on my iPad mini
DeleteWhat will you get them instead?
DeleteI may put a magsafe ring on it
DeleteIt will still support qi charging, so you could get a magnetic charging case to add back magsafe compatibility. A lot of Android phones do this now
ReplyDeleteAt 1/3 of the power.
DeleteI think it’s ridiculous but also ingenious that they managed to find that one noticeable-but-actually-not-that-essential feature to cut.
ReplyDeleteOr they’re just not brave enough to gut the charging port this time around.
iPhone SE 3: I'm the worst ever value iPhone
ReplyDeleteiPhone 16E: Hold my charger (I can't bc no Magsafe).
Sucky, but I'll just find a case with magnets in it, that's what I do currently with my 11 that doesn't have MagSafe.
ReplyDelete$1200 in NZ vs $850 for the SE3 yesterday.
ReplyDelete$350 more and no mage safe … hell no.
So they made it an open standard and shared it with the Qi foundation to make Qi2 and then removed it from their latest phone? lol
ReplyDeleteSomething no one considers is that a number of people (especially on older side) are no longer able to purchase iPhones due to MagSafe. MagSafe can interfere with pacemakers so Apple recommends keeping the phone away at least 12 inches, which isn’t always possible.
ReplyDelete12 in is a foot, or 30.48 cm
DeleteMy car charger uses magnets to hold my phone while I navigate with gps (and obviously charge)— I’m gutted this was looking to be the perfect upgrade for me
ReplyDeleteJust get a MagSafe case or ring.
DeleteI can’t be the only person here who doesn’t case their phone so that I can actually enjoy the design/weight/feel/colour of the phone itself
DeleteEveryone who bought into MagSafe is locked into the next iPhone tier or higher.
DeleteI wanted to upgrade to this too, but I “need” MagSafe now.
Well there will be 3rd party magsafe cases soon
ReplyDeleteYou can go on AliExpress and get MagSafe rings for like $1.
Deletejust Apple being Apple. Without cutting this feature, this one would be too similar to the base 16.
ReplyDeleteI will probably get one "for free" through my workplace in a few months (my 13 mini's battery is aging), but the idea of switching back to a traditional non-magsafe wallet.... ugh...
Sh*t
ReplyDeletewhat the fuck? i thought they wanted it to be part of their standard moving forward. pretty odd to leave all those customers out of a lot of their accessories on a phone theyre offering in 2025
ReplyDeleteOthers are saying it can still wirelessly charge, right? So, would it still have the magnets to align with a wireless charger like the Belkin MagSafe Charger 3-in-1 but not use the tracking features of the Apple wallet? Or is it no wireless charging period? Are their cases that have a thin USB-C cable with an attachment built in to enable wireless charging?
ReplyDeleteOdd that Apple is not selling MagSafe cases for the 16E.
ReplyDeleteThe 3rd party market will fill this gap really quickly, but this seems like it would have been a pretty easy sell internally.
What a joke, considering all that it’s missing from this phone, 599 is a tall ask.
ReplyDeleteNo mmWave, no MagSafe, only WiFi 6, and even with the “most efficient” modem in this phone still overall has less battery life than the normal 16. I would rather pay $200 more and get the normal 16.
ReplyDeleteok but mmWave is a joke
DeleteAre you fucking kidding me?! Wow just wow
ReplyDeleteIt mean that Magsafe can be added by phone cover?
ReplyDeleteabsolute dealbreaker to me. i thought i would be super annoyed being stuck with a regular 15 when this 16e came out but nope. im good.
ReplyDeleteRemember the fearmongering five years ago about how MagSafe was going to let Apple get rid of the charging port?
ReplyDeleteI knew it wouldn’t happen but I really wanted a physical sim tray. E Sims are great but are often still more expensive than buying cheap local sim and plan
ReplyDeleteDamn. That’s a dealbreaker .. I want to have this for my kid as nightstand etc , and he already had a MagSafe powerbank. Too bad , what’s the magnets, a dollar ?!
ReplyDeleteCan't you buy a MagSafe case for this phone and use the case's magnet to connect accessories though?
ReplyDeleteYes
Deletecook era apple and moronic product segmentation, name a more iconic duo (rip steve, you had the right approach)
ReplyDeleteIt still has QI though. Not as fast, but cheaper and gets the work done.
ReplyDeleteRumor is the magnets in the MagSafe was causing issues with the antennas, which would make sense.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, you do you if you like MagSafe but I’ve never seen the point of it.
ReplyDeleteI’ve used a MagSafe charger. It has zero benefits over a regular charger — you still have to be next to a plug, but it’s also harder to pick up and use your phone while keeping it charging, it charges slower and it makes my phone super hot. I also save a ton of money on cases by buying $10 ones on Amazon that aren’t MagSafe compatible.
I don’t need a car mount because I use CarPlay with a wired connection.
Just a solution in search of a problem, IMO
I don't really care about the charging speed, but I do care about the magnets. I have a 13 Mini with a failing battery and, despite still wanting the mini form factor, I was pretty set to upgrade to the new SE, now 16e, to get more battery life & support for Apple's AI (not for today, but for future updates). I can get by with the other "SE" downgrades, but I use MagSafe a lot outside of just charging (wallet, car mount, desk stand, TV & monitor mounts for continuity camera, tripod, other mounts I have installed around my house).
ReplyDeleteThe 16e looks to be using a 14 form factor, so the magnets should fit, and the cost would have to be negligible, especially when they have increased the price from the SE anyway. It's just a very annoying omission.
Cheaper model phone has less features, more at 11
ReplyDeleteIt’s all for the good of the consumer , you don’t really get it yet but you will figure out
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ReplyDeleteThey have $300 smartphones with OLED
DeleteI was going to buy this phone but this one thing has actually turned me off..
ReplyDeleteIf no one has figured out this phone is more for older people that don’t care about features like MagSafe. It’s a fair price, could be cheaper but prices aren’t going down, have you bought eggs recently
ReplyDeleteThis sub only wants the latest greatest most amazing. This phone is for a certain demographic.
DeleteThis is kind of bullshit. I actually recently got a MagSafe charger in part because I was expecting to use it with this phone. I figured regardless of whatever else it may or may not have, it would at least have this very basic feature.
DeleteDefinitely sucks there’s no MagSafe, but it will still work as a Qi charger, just won’t magnetically attach.
DeleteWhich is worthless. My current iPhone SE 2020 has the same thing, and I never use it. I want something I could attach to the phone while I'm using it.
DeleteMost people will get a MagSafe case, I don’t see the issue
ReplyDeleteAnd they released it 6 weeks earlier, I wonder why.
ReplyDeleteHuh?
DeleteAll the screens in the promotional video on the iPhone have April 1st 9:41 on it, normally the date represents the date it is revealed, making it 6 weeks early
DeleteThe groundhog saw its shadow.
DeleteThe lack of MagSafe has me worried about the new iPhones this fall. However, it does have a limited wireless charging speed. That gives me hope that the “flagship” iPhones this fall will in fact still be MagSafe compatible… but Apple does weird stuff sometimes
ReplyDeleteI never use MagSafe anyway, so good. Saves weight and cost.
ReplyDeleteYes that fraction of an ounce will really be felt.
DeleteYeah same
Delete"Affordable" ?
ReplyDeleteAffordable 🤣🤣🤣
ReplyDeleteIt's #overpriced 🤮🤮