Tesla Car Self Drives To New Owner’s Home; Internet Jibes ‘Google Did It Before With Waymo’ - Tech.
Tesla Car Self Drives To New Owner's Home
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Tesla delivered its first autonomous delivery of an EV self-driving car from Gigafactory to its new owner without cargo or the buyer dropping to the showroom. Sharing a clip of the EV self-driving to the owner’s location, Tesla tweeted, “World's first autonomous delivery of a car!” It added, “This Tesla drove itself from Gigafactory Texas to its new owner's home ~30 min away—crossing parking lots, highways & the city to reach its new owner.”
Tesla also shared the pictures of the owner posing with their brand-new EV parked outside their home in Texas.
Euphoric Elon Musk reacted to the company’s achievement, remarking, “The first fully autonomous delivery of a Tesla Model Y from factory to a customer home across town, including highways, was just completed a day ahead of schedule!!”
Musk further congratulated the “Tesla AI teams, both software & AI chip design!” The billionaire noted, “There were no people in the car at all and no remote operators in control at any point. FULLY autonomous!”
He further claimed, “To the best of our knowledge, this is the first fully autonomous drive with no people in the car or remotely operating the car on a public highway.”
Tesla’s AI techie Ashok Elluswamy rected to his boss’ tweet stating the speed of the EV, “Yup! Max speed was 72 mph.” Musk replied to the tweet, stating, “Zippy.”
Tesla has also recently launched Robotaxi in Austin in a geofenced area. The autonomous ride hailing service by the EV giant will soon roll out for the general public.
Meanwhile, here's how the netizens are reacting to Tesla’s self-delivery of vehicles, with some praise, and some skepticism. One user remarked, “Elon is now shipping thins ahead of schedule “Another user quipped, “A little spooky...” “lmao bro waymo does this daily,” wrote a third user. Yet another commented, “Waymo, known as Google self-driving did this in 2012, but I'm pretty sure there are enough gullible people who will believe your lies.”
I would like to claim that I walked on water to Europe last week. Why not, it is just as credible as this claim being made by Musk and just as likely to have happened. A modern PT Barnum if there ever was one.
ReplyDeleteMore credible. You have told the truth before, but there is no proof Elon ever has.
ReplyDeleteWait.. how do you know who tells the truth on the internet? Example: someone claiming to work for a company doesn’t mean they do.
ReplyDeleteWe know they told the truth because they made a statement that was objectively factually true.
ReplyDeleteThey could be a robot and we still have the ability to verify truthfulness of statements
Who is we? It doesn’t work like that. Factual statements are given by giving proof itself. So far nobody did.
ReplyDeleteProof is in the video released by Tesla! Congrats to Tesla.
ReplyDeleteAutonomous driving in Tesla vehicle will be like Spacex's reusable boosters.
ReplyDeleteBefore they succeeded, many people said it was impossible.
Few people doubt that every car will be fully autonomous
ReplyDeleteWe're talking about today. And the last decade. As Elon stated in 2016 self driving was a solved problem
Eventually substantiating your claim does not negate a decade of lying. That's not how reality works.
how many more decades until that occurs?
ReplyDeleteNo one said it was impossible. In fact, it's been done before lol.
ReplyDeleteMust not have seen the literal video evidence huh big guy?
ReplyDeleteThey videotaped it. Try again…
ReplyDeleteThey videotaped it in 2016 and then scored it with Paint It Black. Try again...
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ReplyDeleteNikola Tesla was a brilliant man.
ReplyDeleteDo you feel better?
Great comment. I'm glad I'm not the only sane person here. Not a DMF.
ReplyDeleteNah, you are being reported for an inappropriate username and banned.
ReplyDeleteI think everyone is missing one key statement: Musk said no one had to “remotely operate” the car during the drive.
ReplyDeleteHe did NOT say it wasn’t remotely monitored with someone ready to take over IF needed.
My gut here is that the car somehow miraculously made the drive … a drive that was most likely pre planned, pre scanned and even pre tested, A LOT. Then someone still kept an eye on it with the option to shut it down or have it pull to the side of the road if something “bad” started to happen.
Other key missing points: Speed? Highway driving can mean just about anything, but it doesn’t have to mean it was flying down the highway at 70MPH.
SO yeah, no one had to remote operate, but WOULD have if needed.
"Texas highways are categorized into several types, including Interstate Highways, U.S. Highways, State Highways, State Highway Loops and Spurs, Business Routes, Farm to Market Roads, Park Roads, and Toll Roads"
DeleteInterstate and Federal are out, must stay on Texas only regulated roads.
Yes, not remotely controlled unless there is an intervention.
Chosen route has a very low risk of that event.
Will need some development to become more general....
"That's all folks!"
The Austin factory is on a privately owned toll road called Texas 130. That’s the only highway that could match his description. Speed limit on TX 130 is 85mph.
DeleteThanks.
DeleteYikes!
Delete"Interstate and Federal are out, must stay on Texas only regulated roads."
DeleteInterstate and Federal highways are funded by federal dollars, but for most purposes, they're locally regulated. You don't see federal police on them giving out traffic tickets. I couldn't find anything in a casual search to indicate that there are different regulations that apply in those cases.
I appreciate your help. Tesla did use the H130 you mentioned. I followed the roads on the video as best I could. 70mph max, but not for long. Not too difficult, traffic was relatively sparse. Only the I35 could be a problem, but is TxDot as you said. Tesla obviously did not take the video from the car's cameras. A pampered pet.
Deletethat the speed limit is 85 mph should give you a clue.
DeleteCame to the comments to say exactly this. The statement was carefully worded and did not say the vehicle was not remotely monitored, or that there was not a chase car with someone monitoring ready to take over at any point.
DeleteFirst, Auto Pilot.
DeleteThen Self Driving.
Then Full Self Driving.
Then Full Self Driving (supervised).
Then Full Self Driving (unsupervised).
Then Full Self Driving (unsupervised), (monitored).
I confidently predict that within 18 months Tesla will have developed a new, original and unique modifier to append to the name of their ADAS.
Then again, the more simple and logical answer: He just lied. Which he always does. Why wouldn't he lie about this?
DeleteThe other thing that pops into my mind: Tesla can't even get approval for Level 3. How could they legally let a car drive from point A to point B on a public road with no driver? Why aren't the authorities investigating this and making some arrests?
‘Cause Texas, I guess.
DeleteThank you. Was gonna say that.
DeleteTexas.
DeleteFalse. The customer was notified 2 days before delivery. No time for pre-planning. 72 MPH, actually. Educate yourself and then come back.
DeleteFor sure. And it probably wasn't even the first car to try.
Deletegreat observation.
DeleteThe car drove directly from the assembly line to the customers house all on video…
DeleteThe second quarter financial results must be really bad if Musk is forced to resort to these gimmicks to distract the public.
ReplyDeleteThis has been the plan for years.
DeleteTesla's future isn't about cars anyway.
DeleteWell said. I agree. It's too late to right ship in the auto industry. If Tesla still has a future, it has to find it elsewhere.
DeleteHaha. That's one hell of a gimmick. Love it. Go Tesla!
Deleterolling out level 3 and sending it down the road reminds me of Elizabeth Holmes when she would give blood results on a drop of blood. It was not accurate or correct and very very dangerous. I would say our oversight is doing about as good a job this time also, and someone is gonna get hurt.
ReplyDeleteTesla is still Level 2
DeleteWorks currently Texas. No SAE definitions employed.
DeleteIn this stunt, a specific variant of the robotaxi gimmick, the car remains as L2.
If the remote operator intervenes, the verbal honesty of the stunt fails, that's all.
However, Tesla have no reason to formally report if the operator does intervene, but only if it crashes.
What’s funny is that Teslas are famously bad at cross-traffic warnings, adaptive cruise control, emergency braking, and driver monitoring and attention management. They aren’t even good at Level 2.
DeleteNo, they are not. So much was earlier disguised by the driver. Austin exposed the weaknesses. The delivery thing is on straight roads and highways. So simple, yet Tesla are not willing to risk FSD alone.
DeleteSo for all we know they did this 1000 times and this was the first time there was no intervention
DeleteSee anti tesla people can make good logical will argued point lets have more of that and less of the lying and shouting
DeleteAVs will soon be safer than humans and one day we may even find it hard to believe that humans actually drove cars. Congrats, Tesla! What an achievement!
DeleteDo you drive a Tesla with FSD?
DeleteNo, I'm not suicidal.
DeleteI see the problem! I hope you get a chance to try it yourself someday. We have two FSD cars, and they both operate extremely well.
DeleteWe are headed out for a 3,000 mile trip this AM. The car will drive itself. It is wonderfully relaxing.
While this keeps getting closer, I wonder who is responsible if the car wrecks? Can the car be sabotaged and will it shutdown if something goes wrong? These are the types of details I am interested in.
ReplyDeleteMy favorite part about all of this is how the usual skeptics used to say this day would never come, now you all complain about a car that brakes a little too hard. Your only skill is shifting goal posts, and that's it.
ReplyDeleteA completely autonomous system based entirely on AI and a few cameras is about a novel as it gets in the tech world and the only hiccups were that it braked too hard and self-corrected --- and you're upset about that? Wild.
The day still hasn't arrived. This is still very far from L5. Personally, my goal post has never moved. If I can't have full, all-weather L5, then all I want is L0.
DeleteCool story. While you keep waiting I'm loving my car that drives me pretty much everywhere with zero interaction. I use FSD for 95% of driving and never have to intervene. Worst mistake it makes is choosing the wrong lane in confusing intersections.
DeleteWell this is surely going to save Tesla from it's current problems. Well done guys.
ReplyDeleteHow many times did they have to map out that exact route before they let it free? Unlike Waymo, which uses the far superior LiDAR system and can just be set free anywhere without prior mapping.
ReplyDeleteWaymo is awful. My one experience with Waymo in Arizona, it straight up ran a red light - made a left turn on a sold red light across 3 lanes.
DeleteIs this a joke? Waymo has been completely transparent about its need for geofencing and pre-mapped routes. Waymo cannot just operate anywhere, unlike Teslas which actually can. Its not hard to look into this stuff... its embarrassing how incorrect you are lol
DeleteTesla's cannot operate anywhere doing what Waymo does. Other than one very specific area of Austin, Tesla's have to have a human behind the wheel. At least Waymo gets away with just having a human remote operator on-call for when it can't figure out what to do about its arch nemesis, the Road Cone.
DeleteLol, Lidar isn't nearly the magic tech you think it is. It's basically a grayscale depth map that's pretty much worthless in anything heavier than a light drizzle.
DeleteAnd it parked in a fire lane...
ReplyDeleteWaymos cost 10x more to make and have been known to glitch and stop traffic in all directions. The minor Robotaxi hiccups were nothing major, not even in the slightest.
DeleteHow many times do you think do you think it would've failed a driving test during that ride? Camping in the left lane while semi's blow past it, struggling with a left, driving in the oncoming lane and parking in a fire lane are all good grounds for a fail. It basically drives as good as a Tesla driver, but that really isn't a high bar. Pretty sure the Titan submersible saw that bar just before it imploded.
DeleteMeanwhile, at the local 20th century Ford/ GM/ Stellantis/ VW/ BMW/ Mercedes/ Kia/ Toyota/ Honda dealerships, there are greasy palmed salesmen lying in wait to capture customers in their web. Unwitting customers drive up to the lot where the sales jockeys begin an extensive, hours long yappin' offering the latest "discounts" that they will have to "check with their manager" to see if they can get you "a great deal".
ReplyDelete...hours of useless haggling
...witnessing multiple manipulative lies being thrown down
...mounds of paperwork
...fees upon fees upon fees
...hours later...most likely days later...
You drive off the lot and your brand new ICE vehicle immediately craters in value.
3-5 years later after mounds of recalls and maintenance costs: Repeat.
Sad.
I'm no fan of polluting ICE vehicles. But let's not pretend that rapid depreciation isn't a problem for electric vehicles.
DeleteIf one were to actually care about sustainability, depreciation would not matter, as one would drive the car until it drives no more.
DeleteThat's the approach I take with my vehicles. My current vehicle is 7 years old, and still has plenty of life left in it. My prior vehicle was kept for 15 years. But I do think that selling a used vehicle is environmentally fine. It's only scrapping a functional vehicle that is problematic. Not everyone can afford new vehicles, especially after recent year's price increases, and the used vehicle market serves an important function.
DeleteBut the original comment did critique ICE vehicles for rapid depreciation, and I was responding to that.
Well there is always another buyer/user to continue the car's usage journey. A car doesn't get scrapped pretty much until it drives no more.
DeleteYou make it sound like that car is getting thrown away if you trade it in after a few years. The care is handed off (for money) to someone who can't afford (or does not want) a new car and it continues to live a happy live. Does not hurt sustainability since it is still being used by someone who's car probably died and is in need of a cheaper used car.
DeleteValid point, however I do believe that simply selling the car for an "upgrade" (I don't mean out of necessity, which is of course valid) is not a sustainable approach.
Deleteif you cared about sustainability you wouldn't drive, virtue signalling pr*ck.
DeleteHow kind. I don't own a car, as I live in the city.
Deletehttps://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/008d5c23b6b203b88ce0931638ef5b1694ed11d3f6e94c0f51ebd0c551da07bb.gif
ReplyDeletePerhaps only in the 20th century 25 years ago.
ReplyDeleteDealership paperwork is way less nowadays with apps and electronically signed documents.
Tesla cars lead in terms of depreciation more than most ICE vehicles.
On the other hand it won't have lost as much as an ICE car, the insurance will be cheaper and the cars are statistically more reliable and far cheaper to fix. But you do you.
ReplyDeleteI bought my last Ford remotely completed a transaction remotely and had the vehicle delivered without ever having to leave my house or speak to a single person.
ReplyDeleteIT'S HAPPENING
ReplyDeleteCongratulations on hitting puberty!! 🎊
DeleteYes!!! :D
DeleteMusk saying so doesn't make it so. Proof is needed.
DeleteSo for Robotaxi, Tesla felt it needed “safety monitors” overseeing the rides in a geofenced area, but for self delivery they didn’t? What loopholes in local/state/federal regulations/codes did they exploit for that?
ReplyDeleteThe ones that make you cry hardest
Deleterick jones posed a very good question. Your "cry hardest" reply was immature and added nothing intelligent to the conversation. What's your next reply going to be - "my dad can beat up your dad"? Grow tf up.
DeleteI'm his Dad, and I can beat the shit out of both of you. Cry babies.
DeleteMy dad can beat up your dad
DeleteNazi muck is using hidden remote teleoperator drivers in both Austin and at the Giga factory for the Level 2 100% supervision and real time intervention required.
ReplyDeleteThe ones that could be avoided, by bribing officials in Texas
ReplyDeleteHere an example how you could have posted as well:
ReplyDeleteWow, what a remarkable moment in automotive history! Tesla’s autonomous delivery of a Model Y from Gigafactory Texas to a customer is a groundbreaking achievement, showcasing the potential of self-driving technology. Kudos to Tesla for pushing the boundaries of innovation!
This is an incredible milestone for Tesla! Can anyone share insights on how Tesla navigated current local, state, or federal regulations to achieve this fully autonomous delivery without safety monitors, especially compared to the Robotaxi program’s approach?
This provides a great starting point for understanding the regulations involved you're interested in.
You can also ask Grok directly about the specific laws that enabled this achievement, fostering informed discussion rather than suggesting any wrongdoing
None.
ReplyDeleteSeems a Tesla car without anyone inside is like an object, per example a ball, rolling over a street. No problem at all ! 🤗
ReplyDeleteI had my first service appointment this week to fix a problem with the climate controls. As I was driving there I thought, "Someday I won't have to take this in for service. It will take itself." I was thinking 5 years but it looks like sooner would be more likely.
ReplyDeleteActually the actual stats of Tesla FSD prove "never" is the most likely.
DeleteI agree that there are a lot of things that still need work. FSD can't find my driveway, gets the speed limit wrong about 10% of the time, doesn't anticipate what it needs to do far enough in advance, etc. But it is freaking amazing none the less.
DeleteYou need to be very careful. The NHTSA actually found that Tesla FSD actually causes accidents because people start to trust it too much when it is actually statistically proven to still be thousands of times more dangerous than a human driver.
DeleteYou can read anything you want on the internet. Most statistics indicate the FSD supervised. It's safer, then a driver alone. That has been my experience.
DeleteThere is room for debate though
Uh, no. It's not a "debate". It's scientific fact.
DeleteYou don't seem to comprehend the NHTSA is not the "internet". It is a government agency that conducts scientific research on vehicle safety, driver behavior, and traffic safety.
From the NHTSA: "Tesla’s Full Self-Driving linked to hundreds of crashes, dozens of deaths. NHTSA found that Tesla’s driver-assist features are insufficient at keeping drivers engaged in the task of driving, which can often have fatal results."
In addition, it is a statistical scientific fact, proven by crowdsourced data from hundreds of FSD users, which musk, himself, has praised, that Tesla FSD is still thousands of times more dangerous than a human driver.
This statistic was confirmed by the multiple, potentially fatal, failures of FSD during the Tesla taxi rollout in Austin.
There is zero credible data that indicates anything different.
It's not a question.
You make no sense at all. You're trying though. Good for you.
DeleteJust block him and stop wasting yourtime.
DeleteWhat part of the report quoted doesn't make sense to you?
ReplyDeleteFacts don't count with fanboys. Like Musk they don't have a degree, or even a faked Masters. They are however doing a good job of making all Americans look stupid.
ReplyDeleteYes you read that right fanboys: his "Masters" was not filled out properly, and came two years after the fact.
Say it aint so; Musk is as honest as the day is long!!!
Please don't feed the troll
ReplyDeleteNo debate. IF you pay attention, and the car pays attention, you are safer. Full stop.
ReplyDeleteIn airliners, you have the Capt., responsible for the safety of the flight. You also have the 2nd officer who handles many routine chores, including sometimes being the actual pilot flying. This has proven to make airline travel safer than any transportation other than an elevator.
AND you have the autopilot which pretty much flies the airplane from the start of the departure runway to the end of the arrival runway. And it is programmed by the company, not the pilot, usually. And the flight crew only gets involved if something goes wrong. Hence the need for lots of simulator time because the crew rarely actually flies the plane.
ReplyDeleteIn nearly all situations in life there has to be three or more things that go wrong before serious things happen. For example, you ignore the tire pressure warnings. First thing. You get a flat tire because you don't have run flat tires. Second thing. You continue to drive safely . Third thing. All three of those things have to go wrong for you to actually end up in a movie like fiery, end over end, roll over crash.
Just about every serious problem in life comes because we let several warnings go unheeded. I should know. I have ignored enough stuff to be an expert on things going wrong.
With the way it's designed to disengage before a crash, so that it can be hidden from many statistics, how it has trouble seeing a moving train in front of it on a railway crossing, sure the Level2 tech that is in a tesla is 'safe',
ReplyDeleteSuch incredible insight, Philly. I think you know you're irrelevant and unremarkable and it really just chaps your ass.
ReplyDeleteI don't Believe you when you say NHTSA is irrelevant.
ReplyDeleteNever is a long time.
ReplyDeleteIt will happen but probably not as soon as Tesla would like to suggest.
Of course the loaner vehicle would also have to self deliver.
Tesla FSD vision can never be more than the same non-autonomous Level 2 that is has always been because it cameras fail in something as common as direct sun. Tesla fully admits this in its own FSD warnings. It is a fatal design flaw that can never be fixed as musk's own engineers told him, years ago.
DeleteThis fail happened multiple times in Austin and, along with others, made the stock tank instead of the rally the fan boys were hoping for.
Then I guess it's a good thing that you bought a car that can drive itself back to the shop because it will be spending a lot of time in the shop. When I need my car fixed the mechanic comes to my house and does the repair.
ReplyDeleteI'm curious where full self driving vehicles without safety drivers and other arrangements are legal. Did Tesla break the law with this delivery?
ReplyDeleteNo. Nazi muck is using the hidden remote teleoperator drivers, he referenced in his tweet, to do the required 100% full supervision and interventions.
DeleteThis scam only fools the incredibly dim and delusional.
The dim and delusional are the clowns (like you, dude) who think everyone is in on the scam ... including my son who works on Ashok's team. 😂
DeleteNothing with any part of you could ever work near any tech - unless he is cleaning the toilets.🤣🤣🤣
DeleteAshok, himself, just fully admitted that Waymo is years ahead of Tesla and Austin proved that.🤣🤣🤣
Enjoying the Tesla stock tank, lying loser? What happened to the Robo-Rally? People know crap when they see it.🤣🤣🤣
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DeleteMy average price post splits is $13/share. I doubt you own shares... of any company. Bye, Dude. It's been fun watching you implode here tonight. Sorry again about your parents (that whole brother and sister thang).
DeleteI bought Tesla at $17 and sold at the peak when Nazi muck started lying constantly. You'll never get close to what I made.
DeleteKeep on failing little TechTurd beta boy.🤣🤣🤣
You more on should have sold when Tesla was at above 450. But of beurre you didn't believing Musk's lies.
DeleteWhen will you wake up. Nine years ago his engineers refused to build a car without a steering wheel. They also tried to tell him that an image is not the same as seeing: something Hofstadter explained years ago; not that Musk would be capable of understanding it.
DeleteYes, your son working at Tesla is part of the scam.
DeleteYou would be amazed at the number of people who actually want to be fooled and want to believe.
DeleteYes they were legal. Next whataboutism please.
ReplyDeleteNo, absolutely not ! Seems a Tesla car without anyone inside is like an object, per example a ball, rolling over a street. No problem at all ! 🤗
ReplyDeleteA two ton 72mph ball. I can come up with some unfortunate scenarios. However it’s still safer than many human drivers
DeleteAnd many human drivers are safer than fsd. I'd say most in fact. I have never written with anybody who slams on the brakes for no reason from time to time.
DeleteYou just haven’t ‘written’ with enough people, genius!
DeleteMainstream Media be like "Nobody is delivering Tesla vehicles anymore" :-)
ReplyDeleteBahahaaa.
DeleteBe like?
DeleteIts good that its started ..... it will be interesting to see if all states allow this to happen from all showrooms ....
ReplyDeleteNothing has started. All Teslas are still Level 2 FSD with 100% human supervision and intervention required - and still statistically proven to be thousands of times more dangerous than a human driver.
DeleteTry and catch up.
This success really bothers you, huh? I love it. Love it.
DeleteLet's check in on that "success"...
DeleteMultiple dangerous FSD fails in Austin in the first hours of operation that are serious enough that the NHTSA immediately gets involved.
The fail videos then go viral showing the Tesla FSD Level 2 is still the same exact crap that doesn't work and the stock tanks multiple days in a row while the rest of the market goes up - the exact opposite of what all the lying Tesla shills and Nazi muck boot-lickers were expecting.
Only an ultra-loser, beta-bottom, like you, would call that a "success".
🤣🤣🤣
So exciting! :D
ReplyDeleteGetting tingles just thinking about it, haha :)
with optimus shared hardware
ReplyDeleteSo a fail running a fail, then.
DeleteSay the guy who can't even average 1 upvote per post. What a moron. 😂
DeleteUh, a quick look reveals I have about 40 upvotes to your one ,on average, TechTurd beta boy.🤣🤣🤣
DeleteYou do math real good. 🤣 Get your calculator out this time...
DeleteUsed the calculator and it went up to 56 to 1.
DeleteWill you even not lose, TurdBro?🤣🤣🤣
Never had a single upvote when talking about von Neumann or Turing. Maybe I just got lucky.
Deleteoptimus be the greatest product ever - the first scalable humanoid robot
DeleteOptimus is proven to be about a decade behind the top robotics companies and can't even reliably walk yet, dumb derp.
Deleteoptimus has proven it can be a professional dancer
DeleteYeah, but does it have the relevant silicone implants to be truly entertaining?
Deleteas a street dancer people would stop and stare -in awe
DeleteNah, the looters would steal the thing.
Deleteit be better to just buy one
Deletemake it recognize a new owner
DeleteYeah: the looter. Crime pays :)
Deletethe cameras be connected to internet -to show the hideout
DeleteBlanket.
Deletea blanket would make the robot useless
DeleteThat's a blanket statement.
ReplyDelete-unless you want your optimus to serve as clothing rack only
ReplyDeleteWhy not? It'll be made unusable like an Apple phone as soon as it is stolen.
Deletebuy an optimus instead of stealing it -apply for a dangerous and tedious job and let optimus pay dividend
DeleteSo how do you go through the snagging process, given Tesla's well document poor manufacturing quality? How do you get them to realign the crooked trunk lid, fix the loose trim piece and sort out the missing USB port on the real console. Or is it just a binary thing where you either accept or reject the vehicle? I suspect in this case the car they sent out got some extra attention in the re-work bays before they sent it on its way. Doesn't seem scalable as is.
ReplyDeleteOn Saturday 6/21 I took delivery of my new 2026 Model Y LR RWD at the West Palm Beach (FL) service center. Using a checklist from a YouTuber, I carefully and closely examined the car and could not find any issues whatsoever. This car seemed perfect!
DeleteThis experience was much better than with my 2018 Model 3 LR AWD, which was actually significantly better than many other owners were reporting at that time on cars of similar vintage. After a while I had the service center realign the left front quarter-panel due to noticeable bulging that was gradually increasing. A couple years later, after replacing all four tires due to excessive tread wear on the inner halves of all four, they totally realigned all four wheels, which totally corrected the uneven wear.
Since I’ve only had the new car for a week and haven’t yet taken it on a road trip, I haven’t noticed other potential issues or suspicious noises. There are certainly significant noise-reduction improvements over the M3 that make the cabin much quieter.
I hope for your sake that you still love your Tesla in a year, two or five bc Tesla vehicles depreciate the most of any brand in the USA after 1 year of ownership (26.6%), after 3 years of ownership (44.4%), and after 5 years of ownership (54.7%) (Source: CleanTechnica )
DeleteTeslas depreciate faster than a six figure SUV from Dodge GM or Ford? Good luck with that one #lot_rot In Florida and California and now Illinois I'm going with "hardly depreciate at all" at the moment. Not for the new Model 3 and now new Model Y. Who in their right mind is buying a Honda Civic here? I'm going with *NO ONE.* Ain't no one buying no Mercedes-Benz here none neither homey. Those numbers don't lie *THEY SUCK.* so too polestar, Volvo, Hyundai-Kia Dodge Charger anyone even look at that piece of junk? Only the Ford Mach-e has ever produced a competitive product relative to Tesla EVER and GM Ain't gonna change that as they gave up on full self driving. Nothing from BMW nothing from Toyota MAYBE Subaru starting January next year *MAYBE.* won't come anywhere near Tesla, Rivian, Lucid soon apparently #slate trucks who knows who else.
DeleteNothing depreciates faster than a Toyota Mirai.
DeleteFor years now, I have kept my cars for many years, 7+ in the case of my 2018 M3, which was still in very good condition after over 96K miles, 6+ for my previous car, a 2001 VW Passat Wagon with manual transmission that was warning me about upcoming repairs. Previously I lived in Germany for 10 years and drove my VW manual transmission all over Europe for over 100K KM and sold it for about what I originally paid for it thanks to currency exchange rates between 1985 and 1995. I kept my other prior cars for similar terms. Since I don’t trade cars frequently and I drive a lot, the depreciation has not been a huge factor (for me). At my current age and presumed longevity, I expect the new Model Y to serve me to the end along with the FSD package that I bought in 2019 when it was “on sale” briefly and transferred to the new car.
DeleteIgnoring the sky is falling and Tesla going bankrupt mentality...
ReplyDeleteDefects you would find upon vehicle arrival, you note (probably taking pictures) all the items that you want addressed and schedule service. This is often the same process as you would do at the delivery center.
Tesla assembly quality is now better than ever. I think they finally learned a tough lesson after thousands of customer vehicle rejections.
ReplyDeleteI am a very OCD person. I can spot a misaligned body panel from a mile away. Every body panel on our 2024 Model Y is aligned perfectly. All of the panel gaps are perfect and all panels are flush with each other. Also, zero squeaks or rattles after 22k miles and zero issues to report. To date it has never seen a Tesla service bay.
I’m gonna doubt this. Mostly, it’s because I don’t believe Tesla’s FSD is actually that capable.
ReplyDeleteIt’s not hard to believe with Robotaxi launching at the same time, using the same car and software. Tesla posted the full 30 minute unedited delivery drive if you want to see for yourself: https://youtu.be/lRRtW16GalE?si=j1Go4PkfEWNwrgCg
DeleteYes, but those robotaxis have already had a string of well reported driving errors.
DeleteNo collisions, no near misses, relatively minor mistakes overall. And there is a handful of mistakes compared to hundreds of total rides so far. The mistakes are being overblown by the media. It’s not as if Waymo cars haven’t made some of the same mistakes. But it’s not headline news every time it happens like with Tesla.
DeleteIf this is the worst Robotaxi will be, it’s a great start. Only improvements from here.
DeleteWaymo problems were very well reported, especially when they were first starting out. You should expect the same for Tesla. If you think the reporting on Tesla is biased as compared to Waymo I would interested in seeing an unbiased source? I haven’t been able to find one. Limiting the pool to what I assume are those expected to report favorably makes it seem like Tesla doesn’t want transparency, you sure you’re getting the whole truth from them?
Also, I don’t see a huge upside to a service that doesn’t work in the rain. They need to fix that. I would also say given the small area serviced and the high probability that there have been more unreported incidents than reported, the roll out probably isn’t as smooth as some think even allowing for the fact that Tesla isn’t offering rides to the general public yet.
Pretty sure Tesla uses cameras while Waymo uses LIDAR
DeleteSo is there proof that it was driven entirely by itself? Its obvious they had a chase cyber truck. I only ask because it would be super concerning for me if there was any way at all in the software for tesla to override a consumers vehicle, even if its only supposed to be once to the factory.
ReplyDeleteDid you see the videos on X? on Youtube? everywhere?
DeleteIt’s running the Robotaxi software for the delivery, which presumably has some kind of remote operation for emergencies. Once it is delivered the software switches to Supervised FSD which has no remote operation (except for customer operated summon via the app). So no, Tesla can’t remotely control a customers car.
DeleteIf they can remote control it on day 1, obviously they can do it on day 2
DeleteAs I just said, day 1 software is different. When the customer takes delivery, software changes from Robotaxi. And why would Tesla want to take over customer vehicles? My conspiracy theory uncle also shared this concern with me about Tesla, so you guys have the same irrational fear lol
DeleteYou're undermining your own point. If Tesla can change the software, they can absolutely take control. If they can control it once and switch the software then can switch it back.
DeleteWhat's stopping them? It's not a conspiracy to say ota updates can be abused it's just common sense
I mean for me it’s a cyber security failure.
DeleteAm I worried about Tesla over riding the car? No.
Am I worried about lax security standards allowing a 3rd party to take control of my car? Based on what you said absolutely.
Sure, what could possibly go wrong. Eventually one of these autonomous vehicles is going to kill someone and then what?
ReplyDeleteJust so you know, if your auto car hits mine, I’m suing you into destitution.
ReplyDeleteAmazing achievement
ReplyDeleteHow?
DeleteWaymo drives with no driver? The delivery was an extremely short trip. What makes this impressive?
…..because it was the first time a car ever delivered itself? This sub is about self driving cars, how is a self driving car not impressive? I think Waymo is an awesome company with an awesome product but I always want as many AVs to succeed as possible
DeleteBrand new Phoenix Waymos regularly drive themselves out of their Mesa factory and deliver themselves to the first rider.
DeleteWhich is also an amazing achievement, I love waymo and took them loads when in the states last. Can’t two things be amazing achievements?
DeleteNot if they’re the same thing and the achievement is based on time, this would be about the 1500th time a 1st delivery to a customer happens, it’s just meaningless
DeleteWaymo and Tesla use different tech no? Waymo are great but don’t have exclusive rights to achievements😂 By your logic the recent first electric passenger flight isn’t a great achievement because we already had a first flight. Elon is the worst I fully agree but let’s not let his crap cloud cool tech
DeleteI’m not crap clouding the cool tech, I’m just dismissing the regular, and I agree, the recent first electric passenger plane is nothing but an incremental step, not huge, not everything can be huge, the iPhone was huge, the first flight was huge, the first electric flight is just an incremental improvement
DeleteWhat's amazing is they're saying it with their chest for once. Will we get a second automatic delivery? A third? Etc. This is where the interesting stuff can start happening that Tesla keeps dancing around.
DeleteLmao. For real?
DeleteFor real. It did even leave town.
DeleteNothing amazing about one company manufacturing a vehicle that can deliver itself to a customer autonomously? Let me know when Waymo does that?
Delete"This new strategic capability allows vehicles assigned to our Phoenix fleet to drive themselves out of the facility and directly into service. In fact, these vehicles can pick up their first public passengers less than 30 minutes after leaving the factory. For vehicles intended for other cities, they can be deployed into public service in a matter of hours after being shipped to their local depot."
DeleteBlog post
Did Waymo manufacture the car?
DeleteWaymo manufactures the robotaxi, yes. They buy the underlying vehicle from Jaguar (or Zeekr, Hyundai, etc.).
DeleteYeah, so they do not manufacture the car, they retrofit A car.
DeleteIs that a rhetorical question? Do you really not know? Or are you saying the bit that is amazing is that Tesla manufactures their car, and not the bit about it driving out of the factory autonomously?
Deleteyou are just a tesla hater. just answer his question with a yes or no.
DeleteThe factory in Mesa takes a vehicle and installs the sensors and compute that makes it autonomous. Then the vehicle drives out of the factory autonomously to waiting customers in Phoenix.
DeleteBut you would know that already from just reading the blog I posted, so I'm not sure what the point of the question is.
Oh you know just that it is directly related to my comment which you responded to and mitigates the relevance of your random blog post. So, in other words - no, they do not.
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