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I’m not surprised. My dad called me yesterday. He’s fairly new to the iPhone family. He was appalled that Siri asked him if he enjoyed talking to someone on his phone. He said, “What if my wife heard that and it was a person I wasn’t supposed to be talking to?” Luckily Siri said my dad’s wife’s name when she asked the question! He had spoken to her a few hours earlier. Siri will ruin someone’s life if they’re not careful. 😂😂😂
Oh hell, yeah while talking to my son for one example, Siri chirped in with the answer, even though we didn’t ask her to or even turn her on definitely listening definitely with those suit but he isn’t and that wasn’t the only time on numerous occasions we have conversations with friends Siri would seemingly just chirp in and put her two cents in
The proof that Tim Cook is a liar is proved here https://www.livemint.com/technology/tech-news/apple-ceo-tim-cook-we-care-deeply-about-privacy-it-is-a-fundamental-right-11574219011955.html
95 million and it applies to pretty much any siri enabled device sold from the last 10 years? Yea get ready for your 1 dollar check after the attorneys get their cut
"The proposed settlement, filed in California federal district court on Tuesday, covers people who owned Siri-enabled devices from September 17, 2014 to December 31, 2024 and whose private communications were recorded by an unintended Siri activation."
Hotword detection is done on device. Nothing is stored, and nothing is transmitted until the hotword is detected. The issue in this case was incorrect hotword detections. The bit about selling ads is conspiracy theory bullshit, though.
These lawsuits are always for the lawyers to take money from everyone else and put it in their pockets. I don't know why the legal system allows this. Oh wait I do. The legal "system" is designed by lawyers, for lawyers and by lawyers for the betterment of, wait for it.... LAWYERS! And they don't forget to squeeze some of their profits back to politicians, most of whom are lawyers, to keep things just the way they are. Kleptocracy.
I'm just going to leave this link to an article from this very site telling us we're all crazy and that our phones absolutely are not listening to us. I'm sure the retraction will be coming soon...
Not all of them. Example: Pizzagate. Anyone found anything remotely close to a child sex dudgeon for high profile politicians in an DC area Pizza shops lately?
Always set your internet of shit devices to not listen unless you physically press a button. It's not 100% foolproof but it's better than always listening for a keyword.
Recording conversations is an almost inevitable result of always-ready voice-activated personal assistants. That part is not great but in my opinion it's what you sign up for by using these services at all.
I would have liked the case to go to discovery about the targeted advertising part, though. If that is true -- and I don't know that there is any evidence it is -- it would be quite a significant violation of how Apple normally claims to handle user data. It's a shame that this case is sweeping that very important part under the rug.
Mossad, Russian, Iranian, Chinese. It was probably the government intelligence agency disguised as an analytics/advertising company that offered the most.
And maybe he'll tap directly into your neural circuitry with it and get you to NEVER question him again and force you to FUCK YOUR OWN FACE if you SO MUCH AS THINK ABOUT IT!!!!
The data is already out there and the buyers have already consumed it--this is just closing the door after the horse has bolted. If Apple made $95,000,000.01 from selling that data, they still turned a profit despite the fee.
Because that's what the settlement is. Just a fee.
Legislation or laws need to be passed that limits commercial devices' access to user privacy as a 4th amendment issue. If the government can't do it without a warrant, then a ToS shouldn't enable access to user devices so a company can fish in your privacy pond
Bit of a long bow to draw between targeted ads and selling recordings of actual conversations, don’t you think? Or did I miss something in that article?
You didn't miss a thing. There's no evidence they sold anything to anybody and the plaintiffs never proved a connection between accidentally triggered recordings and ads. They just assumed they were connected because it was the easiest explanation.
Wait a minute. I thought that companies were ONLY supposed to collect and sell their user's data if the user got the product or service for free 😳. So much for the false dichotomy of "if the product is free, you are the product."🤦🏻♂️
Even when you turn them off, it is collecting information that you are unaware of. Big tech is selling access to your information. There are very little negative consequences once they are caught.
This isn’t surprising, but it is infuriating nevertheless. Apple isn’t better than most other companies & don’t forget they are believed to be involved in child labor in the Congo cobalt mines too. I don’t use Siri, but I am around others who do. Coming soon: no privacy at all.
Yes, but it referred to people not saying “hey Siri” first, so Siri was passively recording them while Siri was enabled on their devices, otherwise they couldn’t have activated Siri anyway. I don’t have Siri enabled on my devices, but whether that matters or not is unclear.
This has been obvious. People talk about buying something, and don't put any mention of that on their phone (like googling prices/checking stores), then suddenly they are getting ads for what they talked about
the real kick in the nuts is that Apple markets itself as the one that cares about your privacy, unlike Meta or Google. Except-oops-big tech can't seem to help themselves from plundering the data of their users, even when promising they won't.
You don't say! It probably also takes photos of you - oooops, unintentionally.... As long as you are forced to agree to iCloud functions, they can do this. Their whole system is designed to spy on the user. But the sheep say MEEEH!
This is false. There is no proof that this happened, it is a mere allegation.
There is not even any proof that Apple EVER sold ANY information from Siri even when the user AGREED to have audio recorded. This is just pure fantasy, at this point.
Hah! Who needs the Communist China to spy on Americans, when the American vendor that sold you the smartphone will spy on you and sell your data to the highest bidder
That's hilarious that the same retards who were like "I need an assistant to help me turn off the lights" are now saying "these corporations are not your friend."
And yet they expect us to believe that their AI will run on-platform, and not be archived for "training purposes". Anyone who upgrades to the newest iPhone is a simp.
I’m not surprised. My dad called me yesterday. He’s fairly new to the iPhone family. He was appalled that Siri asked him if he enjoyed talking to someone on his phone. He said, “What if my wife heard that and it was a person I wasn’t supposed to be talking to?” Luckily Siri said my dad’s wife’s name when she asked the question! He had spoken to her a few hours earlier. Siri will ruin someone’s life if they’re not careful. 😂😂😂
ReplyDeleteWhere is the link to submit a claim?
ReplyDeleteOh hell, yeah while talking to my son for one example, Siri chirped in with the answer, even though we didn’t ask her to or even turn her on definitely listening definitely with those suit but he isn’t and that wasn’t the only time on numerous occasions we have conversations with friends Siri would seemingly just chirp in and put her two cents in
ReplyDeleteOkay, so how do you know if you were recorded? Does Apple have to let you know?
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Kinda hurtful to realize that Siri is still so stupid after listening to me for years 😟
ReplyDeleteWhere is my money 🙄
ReplyDeleteBad Siri, bad, bad Siri.
ReplyDeleteSorry we spied on you. Here’s the cash equivalent of two apple stickers.
ReplyDeleteHow much did they make from all that illegal data by selling to third parties 🤔
ReplyDeleteThis company should be shut down...
ReplyDeleteThat's it? That's all?
ReplyDeleteWhat about google
ReplyDeleteThe proof that Tim Cook is a liar is proved here
ReplyDeletehttps://www.livemint.com/technology/tech-news/apple-ceo-tim-cook-we-care-deeply-about-privacy-it-is-a-fundamental-right-11574219011955.html
Show me the money!!!
ReplyDeleteNo settlements!!
ReplyDeleteThey pay billions
ReplyDeletemade billions
DeletePokerface
ReplyDeletehttps://youtu.be/f7YR0OiLak4?si=UUcj2KMVCWgOmtOt
I want my $20.00 for Siri listening to me talking to my dog. How embarrassing when he barks back at me.
ReplyDeleteWhere do I get my million?!?
ReplyDelete95 million and it applies to pretty much any siri enabled device sold from the last 10 years? Yea get ready for your 1 dollar check after the attorneys get their cut
ReplyDelete"The proposed settlement, filed in California federal district court on Tuesday, covers people who owned Siri-enabled devices from September 17, 2014 to December 31, 2024 and whose private communications were recorded by an unintended Siri activation."
ReplyDeletehttps://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.345934/gov.uscourts.cand.345934.336.0.pdf
What is your point? You can’t prove it, so yes everyone with a device is eligible
Deleteyou know the phone is always listening, because it has to be listening for 'hey siri'
ReplyDeleteNot if you turn that function off.
Deleteyou can't truly turn it off, that's the issue
DeleteYou… can truly turn it off. You can also opt out of sending recordings off to Apple by turning off Improve Siri & Dictation.
DeleteAnd this article is exactly why I turned both of those things off as soon as Siri first launched all those years ago.
how do you actually know it's off or not sending? did apple prove that to all of us difinitively?
Deletea toggle in the settings doesn't mean jack squat
I would imagine that the whistleblowers would have revealed that as well. Why wouldn't they?
Deletewhy wouldn't a potential whistleblower reveal something? hmm...
DeleteHotword detection is done on device. Nothing is stored, and nothing is transmitted until the hotword is detected. The issue in this case was incorrect hotword detections. The bit about selling ads is conspiracy theory bullshit, though.
DeleteThis is why you don't turn on voice activation on your devices!
ReplyDeleteIt should've been $91 Billion. "Millions" are pennies to Apple.
ReplyDeleteThese lawsuits are always for the lawyers to take money from everyone else and put it in their pockets. I don't know why the legal system allows this. Oh wait I do. The legal "system" is designed by lawyers, for lawyers and by lawyers for the betterment of, wait for it.... LAWYERS! And they don't forget to squeeze some of their profits back to politicians, most of whom are lawyers, to keep things just the way they are. Kleptocracy.
ReplyDeleteSiri on my phone and watch keep activating all the time just out of the blue and I rarely say "Hey Siri". Definitely needs to be fixed by Apple.
ReplyDeleteI'm just going to leave this link to an article from this very site telling us we're all crazy and that our phones absolutely are not listening to us. I'm sure the retraction will be coming soon...
ReplyDeletehttps://gizmodo.com/your-phone-is-not-listening-to-you-1851220787
Most conspiracy theories have an element of truth to them. It’s best to not deal in absolutes because we have been wrong too many times before
DeleteNot all of them. Example: Pizzagate. Anyone found anything remotely close to a child sex dudgeon for high profile politicians in an DC area Pizza shops lately?
DeleteYes that is why I said most and not all. Like I said about absolutes and all
Delete$95M is pocket money to Apple. And who cares if the recordings are confirmed destroyed. Want to bet they were all transcribed to text first?
ReplyDeleteApple needs to pay more than a fine. They need to suffer a huge financial loss to understand why privacy is sacrosanct.
ReplyDeleteSeems rather cheap
ReplyDeleteI know mine is listening and I’ve never had Siri enabled.
ReplyDeleteAlways set your internet of shit devices to not listen unless you physically press a button. It's not 100% foolproof but it's better than always listening for a keyword.
ReplyDeleteTwenty whole dollars for letting Apple record you saying, "F**k me harder, daddy!" What a deal!
ReplyDeleteThis settlement is pathetic and won't deter this from occurring in the future.
Recording conversations is an almost inevitable result of always-ready voice-activated personal assistants. That part is not great but in my opinion it's what you sign up for by using these services at all.
ReplyDeleteI would have liked the case to go to discovery about the targeted advertising part, though. If that is true -- and I don't know that there is any evidence it is -- it would be quite a significant violation of how Apple normally claims to handle user data. It's a shame that this case is sweeping that very important part under the rug.
Sounds like an investigation and lawsuit is in order.....
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to whom did it sell them?
ReplyDeleteMossad, Russian, Iranian, Chinese. It was probably the government intelligence agency disguised as an analytics/advertising company that offered the most.
DeleteIt’s time for Elon to make a phone.
ReplyDeleteSo he can sell your convos to Israel? There will no apology if that happens, Israel is protected by the "our greatest genocidal ally" amendment.
Delete🤦♀️ Ffs.
Deletehttps://imgur.com/a/PJKdGQt
Delete😂
Deleteoh because we want one with exploding batteries?
DeleteSo it can blow up? lol 🙂↔️ no thanks
DeleteThese people defy common sense.
DeleteFFS, dude made private Twitter DMs public to further his political agenda, why would you ever trust him with your private conversations?
DeleteAnd maybe he'll tap directly into your neural circuitry with it and get you to NEVER question him again and force you to FUCK YOUR OWN FACE if you SO MUCH AS THINK ABOUT IT!!!!
DeleteOh the moronity.
DeleteWho is surprised by this? Not me!
ReplyDeleteThe data is already out there and the buyers have already consumed it--this is just closing the door after the horse has bolted. If Apple made $95,000,000.01 from selling that data, they still turned a profit despite the fee.
ReplyDeleteBecause that's what the settlement is. Just a fee.
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ReplyDeleteLegislation or laws need to be passed that limits commercial devices' access to user privacy as a 4th amendment issue. If the government can't do it without a warrant, then a ToS shouldn't enable access to user devices so a company can fish in your privacy pond
ReplyDeleteBit of a long bow to draw between targeted ads and selling recordings of actual conversations, don’t you think? Or did I miss something in that article?
ReplyDeleteYou didn't miss a thing. There's no evidence they sold anything to anybody and the plaintiffs never proved a connection between accidentally triggered recordings and ads. They just assumed they were connected because it was the easiest explanation.
DeleteNow do Alphabet, Amazon, and Meta.
ReplyDeleteAny device that has AI built in to the OS level can be assumed to be a data farm and everything on the device subject to scraping.
DeleteNever trust the Apple
ReplyDeletehttps://www.pinterest.com/pin/618611698792584341/
Wow good message…Seriously we should have known not to take the apple lol! Eve, Snow White…now all of us globally….we fell for it 😔😩
DeleteClosed Source operating systems are designed to exploit people.
DeleteThey lock you in to their platform, and like the Hotel California, they try to make it nice on the inside but never let you leave.
Even if you delete apps on phone? Too
DeleteI use what is commonly called a deGoogled phone.
DeleteIt is an Android phone with the operating system wiped and a new Open Source OS put on.
Currently I use the Calyx operating system.
For my PC, I run Linux.
Wait a minute. I thought that companies were ONLY supposed to collect and sell their user's data if the user got the product or service for free 😳. So much for the false dichotomy of "if the product is free, you are the product."🤦🏻♂️
DeleteIf the governments won't rein them in, perhaps the courts will.
ReplyDeleteYou think that governments don’t record private conversations?
DeleteUnintentionally. Sure...
ReplyDeleteI wish they didn't settle. Discovery would be fascinating...
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely criminal.
ReplyDeleteThis is exactly why you can't trust smart devices. They're always listening.
ReplyDeleteAlways listening but what is the rational for always recording?
DeleteEven when you turn them off, it is collecting information that you are unaware of. Big tech is selling access to your information. There are very little negative consequences once they are caught.
DeleteIt's a really Orwellian name. "Let's call it 'smart' so that the idiots don't question it."
Delete$20. Wow.
ReplyDelete95 million is what they earn in 1 hour
ReplyDelete$US95M ($AU153M): chump change for a $2T corporation..
ReplyDeleteThis doesn’t seem like enough money for such an invasive breech.
ReplyDeleteYou should have known
ReplyDeleteexactly if the dead black kids in congo didn't you make boycotting these devils 🤨 you deserve that shit no offense
Deletehttps://imgur.com/a/ruhbq7G
You mean the Chinese child slave workers? 🤨
DeleteIt’s gonna get a lot worse when they force us into digital dollars that they can control
ReplyDeleteWhen they all accused Huawei, they were projecting. As usual.
ReplyDeleteA whole twenty dollars wow
ReplyDeleteThis isn’t surprising, but it is infuriating nevertheless. Apple isn’t better than most other companies & don’t forget they are believed to be involved in child labor in the Congo cobalt mines too. I don’t use Siri, but I am around others who do. Coming soon: no privacy at all.
ReplyDeleteIt says it recorded messages even if Siri was deactivated
DeleteYes, but it referred to people not saying “hey Siri” first, so Siri was passively recording them while Siri was enabled on their devices, otherwise they couldn’t have activated Siri anyway. I don’t have Siri enabled on my devices, but whether that matters or not is unclear.
DeleteBig Tech motto: ‘Unintentionally invading your privacy, but intentionally profiting from it.’ Enjoy your $20 apology.
ReplyDeleteThis has been obvious. People talk about buying something, and don't put any mention of that on their phone (like googling prices/checking stores), then suddenly they are getting ads for what they talked about
ReplyDeleteThis is fucking insane. And $20?!?!! Really?! And how do we even verify that they ACTUALLY deleted it?
ReplyDeleteWhoa if true.
ReplyDeleteBut probably not.
95m to who? The lawyers?
ReplyDeletethe real kick in the nuts is that Apple markets itself as the one that cares about your privacy, unlike Meta or Google. Except-oops-big tech can't seem to help themselves from plundering the data of their users, even when promising they won't.
ReplyDeleteYou don't say! It probably also takes photos of you - oooops, unintentionally.... As long as you are forced to agree to iCloud functions, they can do this. Their whole system is designed to spy on the user. But the sheep say MEEEH!
ReplyDeleteThis is false. There is no proof that this happened, it is a mere allegation.
ReplyDeleteThere is not even any proof that Apple EVER sold ANY information from Siri even when the user AGREED to have audio recorded. This is just pure fantasy, at this point.
95 million is nothing to Apple.
ReplyDeleteApple is sitting on 160 billion in cash I don't think they give a fuck about $95M.
ReplyDeleteHah!
ReplyDeleteWho needs the Communist China to spy on Americans, when the American vendor that sold you the smartphone will spy on you and sell your data to the highest bidder
Only 95 million is insane, you may as well give them a stern talking-to
ReplyDelete$20 for privacy being destroyed?! Hot dog!
ReplyDeleteWait... will that still buy a hotdog?
That's hilarious that the same retards who were like "I need an assistant to help me turn off the lights" are now saying "these corporations are not your friend."
ReplyDeleteFunny how quiet the media is on this!
ReplyDeleteYou think corporate media are on your side?
Delete$20 per device up to 5 devices. This is not compensation
ReplyDeleteHey, they’re giving you 20 dollars for it. We should be THANKFUL……
ReplyDeleteAnd yet they expect us to believe that their AI will run on-platform, and not be archived for "training purposes".
ReplyDeleteAnyone who upgrades to the newest iPhone is a simp.
$20 each for victims, untold millions for the attorneys
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