Wow space x leads the race now. With this static fire test explosion new glenn might not launch for a year now with the pad damage. Also they dont seem to have much rockets in production at the moment too. So the space race between elon and jeff elon is definitely winning at the moment.
Elon was always winning. New Glenn’s dual propellent design is too expensive to compete with Falcon 9 or Heavy, let alone Starship when it enters service.
Isn't starship dual propellant too though methalox which is methane and oxygen or does dual propellant mean something different to what i think it means.
No, starship uses methalox for upper and lower stages. This greatly simplifies pad handling, methane and oxygen liquify at similar temperatures and same tanks fuel both stages. Aldo the rocket tanks are st similar temperatures. Same with falcon 9 using keralox for both stages.
New Glenn uses hydrolox for its upper stage and methalox for its lower stages, which means additional tanks for handling. Hydrogen has to be cooled to significantly lower temperatures, it requires huge cryogenic tanks because hydrogen is the least dense fuel possible, and hydrogen leaks like crazy because its atom is so tiny.
And lastly, hydrogen damages metallic components over time, it’s called embrittlement. Which means more frequent maintenance. All of this means New Glenn is harder to fuel, has smaller launch windows and will have to delay launches more often because of leaks and component failures.
I'm a big SpaceX fan, but I seriously want BO to succeed as well. Having competing heavy lift providers can only be good for the industry as a whole. That said though, I shake my head at the bias many so-called news sites have. One popular space website, who I won't name, is always eager to splash any SpaceX failures at the top of their page for days on end, complete with very critical articles... and yet, after this terrible set-back for BO, this other website has already moved their (small) article to the footer of their front page.
Having one launch pad is going to set Blue Origin and the Moon projects back a long while; maybe SpaceX can take advantage of the mishap with their platform
We should root for both. Two companies advancing state of tte art for super heavy launchers (BO is actively developing an upgraded New Glenn with 9 first stage engines and 4 upper stage engines) means more options for Artemis missions, other deep space missions, and building much larger space stations at a far lower cost than ISS.
And Imagine if Starship suffers a launch failure a couple years into service that forces a long halt to launches. Having New Glenn flying regularly will be critical for every organization putting lots of mass into orbit.
Agree, but SpaceX had the foresight to build multiple launch platforms, Blue Origin did not, and they are paying the piper for that. They will recover in time. I am all for multiple companies launching into space.
Sad to see another launch system loss, but let's get the bugs out before we even consider putting people on-board.
I am loving the caption on the file picture of New Glenn sitting on the launch pad and predicts the future. It says that a rocket like this blew up during a test on May 28, **2029**.
Well, I don't know much about rockets, but I can tell you that this right here was probably pretty expensive. Betting right now Jeff is wishing he had hired better people for rocket design...
Building better, cheaper space launch doesn’t benefit humanity? It does, and so does lowering the cost of buying retail goods and delivering them, and making electric vehicles, etc. what Bezos wife is doing is akin to eating seed corn, liquidating investments in our future to help people today. N she’s her a good person, but isn’t necessarily better for humanity.
No one should be gleefully to roadblocks in mankind’s advancement into space .. just as corporate sabotage should be dealt with in a real and damaging way to any perpetrators… It could be just a coincidence that BO had just won a solid lunar contract .. or something else.. the fact is New Glenn has already proven its orbital and TLI capabilities and it’s ability to land at sea .. these facts might just get some other corporations really mad because in a real way BO has leapfrogged to the front of the line with NASA .. and the booster is proven reusable..
It’s a sad day when any part of our road to exploration is demolished.. by accident or with intent.. it’s my hope they find out what happened and deal with it and move on .. Thank God no one was hurt or killed ..in the incident..
Interesting comments, when something like this happens with SpaxceX some on here get nearly gleeful. I can only guess it is hate for Musk. Me personally I don't like to see these types of failures by anyone developing this technology as they are set backs, we are on the cusp of a new era, Successes carries us one step further down that road !
The "new era" are the billionaires playing NASA space cadets - and it isn't going well.
Elon Musk's Starship has 12 flights now and while it "kinda works" it's still far away from being able to support any Deep Space mission. The HLS version of Starship, Tanker version of Starship, and the Propellant Depot version of starship are still in the "vapor-ware" stage. And more bad news is likely coming from SpaceX, because I seriously doubt they made up a 65 ton payload deficit with the V3 design. They will need the larger V4 Starship for tankers to keep the number of Propellant delivery missions to a more reasonable (but still awful) number - something less than 20!!
Last night we had Jeff Bezos and Blue Origin destroying an entire New Glen Rocket, and their only launch complex, during a test. It's doubtful they will recover from this in less than a year, so the chances of Blue Origin being ready for Artemis III are now ... ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH!!
Finally we have billionaire Jared Isaacman, who canceled the Block 1B SLS wasting billions in tax payer dollars to invest in the more capable (and the one we really needed) SLS Launch Vehicle. It could have gotten a crew of four and co-manifested payload to the Moon .. in a single launch!!! Canceled because it wouldn't be ready in time for Artemis IV, and moving forward NASA wanted to rely these billionaire Commercial Launch Partners. But neither SpaceX or Blue Origin are anywhere close to being ready. NASA needed Block 1B and yes it was expensive - but at this point, I don't think there is a cheaper and better way to get to the Moon. Failure is VERY MUCH AN OPTION for SpaceX and Blue Origin.
SpaceX has lowered the cost of access to space by 95% and launched 165 payloads into orbit last year alone, and has the highest launch success rate in history.
Starship is still only in its 7th year of development, same time frame the Saturn V wasn’t human rated and just had a massive test failure where POGO almost ripped apart its upper stages. Starship is far more capable and advanced than the SLS, which despite being built out of existing engines took 11 years to make space. The SLS has cost $30B in development and $4B per launch, it’s a fiscal and engineering disaster given it’s not capable of landing humans on the moon. Throwing more money at this boondoggle would be lunacy given commercial rockets cost less than 10% as much per ton to orbit.
People who keep saying things like Starship has had 12 test flights and they failed, don't really understand the way SpaceX has changed engineering. Their pace is unprecedented and that is why Elon went from being down to his last few million dollars (after the 3rd failure to launch the Falcon 1) to being the richest guy on the planet with a space company that puts more tonnage into orbit than all the other space agencies in the world... combined!
Mark my words... and I'll eat them if I am wrong, but Starship will meet NASA's milestones by next year (oribital refueling and a LEO meet & greet with an Orion capsule) SpaceX also has a 100% success rate on human rated spaceflight, while NASA killed 14 people in only 135 shuttle missions ( a close to 2% failure rate... while their own regs say the risk should be less then 0.2%)
SpaceX is also fully transparent about their failures, as much as their successes, while the only video we'll probably ever see from BO of this static fire explosion, are from the myriad cameras that web sites have outside the boundaries of CCSFS.
Not sure if you have been paying attention, but the federal government continues to cut funding for space and space exploration . Apollo missions ended, the Space shuttle program ended, there were more iterations and plans for those. The politicians wanted arms and social program spending as it keeps going on the chopping block. These private companies are what is left, or we hand this technology off to China.
Humm, just found this on Dave Limp's Wiki. "Limp decided to join Blue Origin as CEO after Bezos proposed it to him. Although Limp's initial feeling was that he didn't know a lot about rockets, Bezos convinced Limp over a couple of months."
Hey Jeff, you might want someone who knows a lot about rockets, to run your rocket company. If you don't know, then you just don't know, what you don't know.
Blue origin has made substantial progress since Limp took over, it was mired in bureaucratic muck and far from making orbit. Don’t mistake an accident, which happens to all launch providers, with bad leadership.
Yes, was just noticing where they said there is only one launch pad for Blue Origin... Redundancy is an important part of engineering for a reason... Dang, that was one Big Boom!!
Blue Origin only got access to 1. SpaceX has 9 launch stations, ocuppied, on Cape Canaveral. The remaning 3, 1 is for Blue Origin and 2 are been cleaned up.
So you generously inform us the rocket was uncrewed. Great news, huh? But... of course it was uncrewed! It was a hot fire test, and the rocket was firmly anchored to the ground, so it couldn't move under any human agency. There was no conceivable use for a crew of any sort. Stop feeding us with this sort of non-news.
Space is really important. China is way advance than we are. We need a space program because we need to be on the same level as others. If there is war up in space example like taking down satellites, and such we are screwed if we haven't developed a defense. Everything is run off of satellites, your phones, tv , computers , we need to protect our crap. Lot more to it. We were paying Russia to go up in their rockets like wth we need our own stuff.
They go into detail about how fast the ship or craft would have to travel and the great distances. They delve into talk about rockets and using anti-matter as ways of propulsion. Not once though do they introduce the topic of these crafts using wormholes to achieve the feat of traveling great distances in a much simpler way than actually traversing such magnificent distances. Seems a shame to limit the article and exclude these ideas.
Saw a wolf today. He told me things... things that would chill your soul. Trump, Hegeth, Elon, and Area 54 ... very active... HAARP.... The Mothership approaches. Deny all you want... but everything is about to change, and the cancellation of the Mid Terms and our Epstein Files is just the beginning! There are signs in the Earth and signs in the Skies that cannot be denied! Restive animals are attacking... the Earth is rent with yawning cracks.... Fire and flood, and disease are rampant! Everything you see is built upon the bones of what went before. Gaia is but a minor deity. She will be overwritten, like a billion others. Eggs are up, too!
NASA???? NASA???? The NASA which gave Boeing $4.6 BILLIONS to build a capsule?? The NASA which has NEVER built a rocket?? The NASA that always paid at least three to four times what a program cost?? That NASA????
"The billionaires want to dominate commercial space travel," while facing no restrictions, fines or other responsibilities for polluting the air, land and oceans every time they explode or sink.
I would say you have a lot of work to do before having another rocket test. Scale down the size and start over to save $$$ since this test wasted millions!
Well I hope he pays for the taxpayers property he damaged! Not one single penny of tax payer dollars should to the clean up and rebuilding of any and all the damage it caused. What a waste of resources , time. life, money, We are destroying our planet and for what? who controls resources, Who determines the rule of law and has the weapons and power to do so. My race is human, My nationality is earthling. Maybe its time we all learn how to share. Put down the weapons and stop racing for the latest and greatest weapons to dominate others. Anything or person that creates conflict and division. It is not good and cannot feel right, This feels all wrong and not one single tax payer dollar should go to this, Nasa and the United states military been using That pad for a very long time and this never happened before. Taking money away from the professionals is penny wise and dollar foolish, SURE HOPE AMERICANS do not have to spend money on this, That is our property Bezos destroyed, He can pay for it with his capital.
It shows how dangerous space travel is. All missions, including the Artemis missions, should be put on pause until every detail is figured out what went wrong with this rocket. We can't just pretend it didn't happen.
trumps fat orange fingers will be posting on social media tonight about how close to the Whitehouse the meteor came and a reason he needs over a billion dollars of taxpayer money to protect him and future presidents from meteors
I'm left of center politically and approaching 70... I remember watching Glenn, Sheppard,
Gemini, apollo... the shuttle, and I have never thought NASA was a waste of money., though Im sure there is some waste given the com
plexity.. I'm a sci fy nerd so I am a believer in "Space, the final frontier"... however, regarding this privatization, I'm a bit skeptical of the budget-profit motive dynamic...Posters do have a point questioning why we are not spending more money on human services...yet the space program continues to improved weather tracking and other global environmental observational needs..unfortunately for the moment we have an administration that ignores environmental science
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When computers are doing all the work, those entering the information are not as intelligent as their predecessors, as their predecessors actually had to do the work. Big difference in little boys who go to college today and those who went before calculators and google.
Not noted here were all the 911 calls made after the explosion, showing the true intellectual level of many of the observers. Gee folks, you really thought nobody but you noticed the explosion and fireball? And that nobody connected with the launch kinda figured out something went wrong? Wow.
Got a bud of mine who retired from Boeing. He worked from the Apollo to the shuttle tenure as a senior project logistics engineer (Ph.D.; MIT) . He's been fiddling around with the numbers and feasibility. To establish a four person moon habitat by 2035. $500-750 billion dollars. To feed and supply the four person outpost. $250, 000 a day per person. It's all about cost of transportation and specialty equipt for given environment.
The man baby and his ridiculous toys. The moon is, always will be uninhabitable. Men. Men have these bizarre outlooks. Men spin lies in the face of people they think are gullible. To achieve nothing. But they are given government contracts, money, to keep it going. Sickening.
humans using liquid bombs to get to space , 70 years and still the same technology, We need a Manhattan project for anti gravity . Our neighbors in space have to be shaking their heads in disbelief
Why couldn't Dot47d have been the test pilot on it? he'd have been the best test pilot. No other test pilot could have come close to being as good as he would have been. GUARANTEE it wouldn't have exploded had Dot47d been the test pilot.
Can’t I make the determination of “What You (I) Need to Know”? What is this with writers assuming what is important and what is not with respect to information….. I can only assume this stems from the writer’s teachers instructing the test versus teaching material that could be on the test. What you need to know……. Insulting.
This so called $1B 'Glenn Rocket' has the dangerous potential to be a Hindenburg 2 like tragedy over our skies. It really should be investigated. delayed
Just maybe when the Chinese are running around on the moon, we'll realize that it wasn't such a good idea to not make rich boys like Musk and Bezos pay their taxes and let them play rocket-boy. Make them pay their taxes and let NASA do it's job. Oh wait. They Trump crew doesn't believe NASA made it to the moon.
Why do we let rich people have such expensive hobbies while so many could use that money to get out of poverty, pay for elderly care, pay for child care, pay for any care at all? We still have homelessness and hunger in this country, and many fear losing their jobs, which they will in turn lose their health insurance, retirement, and everything else tied to our occupations. Before we have a trillionaire, don't you guys think we should button up these other issues? At this rate, these rich guys are going to knock out every satellite.
No!!!! A rough day is when you get diagnosed with cancer or do not have enough money to pay your bills!!!! Let's get a clue Bezos and the rest of you super wealthy!
Kind of scary that these are to be a part of the future manned missions. But the US government had plenty of rocket failures in the early days, too. Still, one must wonder whether those lessons have been properly incorporated into these private programs.
Bezos and Musk are just polluting our oceans with all these failed rocket projects. These guys just have too much money while their companies are laying off thousands of people. Not sure about Bezos, but with Musk it's likely a large portion is taxpayer money that is going into all this rocket nonsense since our government gives him billions in contracts. He's the only one profiting and gaining from them while people are struggling because of his boy Trump.
Good grief!! Hiroshima was 13 kilo tons and this looks close to that. The over all outputs will not be the exact same as one is chemical and hiroshima was atomic level but that was at least 50-75% of Hiroshima. 5 kilotons at a minimum!!
This type of story, after which commenters always want to see the government do the hard work of development and exploration always makes me think of America in the age of steam. Railroads and steamships were primarily developed by private enterprise, at least until the financing of the transcontinental railway, which was at least partly seen as a national security issue. Contracts with Space X to put satellites in orbit are somewhat analogous to 19th century mail carriage contracts, important revenue for doing important work. The Chinese will be in this race hell for leather, and an explosion or two along the way won't slow them down, we can count on that. If today's U.S. government had been in charge of building the transcontinental railway we would be looking forward to bridging the Missouri River any day now.
You don't know that. All you're doing is advancing the MYTH that private enterprise is better at development when it clearly isn't. Musk is blowing up rockets too. That's a lot of wasted money that could have gone to feeding our starving children or helping prevent the spread of Ebola. How about we prioritize the problems we have here on earth first?
SpaceX has experienced a total of 13 catastrophic mission and test failures across its three major rocket programs. This includes 3 in-flight failures with the Falcon 1, 3 mission failures with the Falcon 9, and 7 explosive failures during early experimental test flights of the Starship program.
Florida doesn't care about the environment. And I'm sure there are no regulations covering explosions of this type. Good luck with all of the deadly stuff this explosion unleashed into the air.
Bezos recently announced that millions of people will be living in space by the year 2045. Yea sure the same race of people that have gone nowhere in 60 years of attempts to travel farther than the edge of the earths atmosphere
Heck with the mfg process of nowadays, its lucky the bolts arent made of teflon. I bought a brand new food processor and replaced it with the same model 3 times and all 3 times, the exact same button quit working after a week. Mfg process and materials are just so inferior and just meant to be throwaway instead of american made classic long lasting products.
MAGAt propagandists are already claiming this explosion was AI created by "Liberal Dems".
ReplyDeletehe should stick to books
ReplyDeleteBig badda boom.
ReplyDeleteThis doesn't just effect New Glenn... If it has to do with the BE-4 then Vulcan is also effected
ReplyDeleteWow space x leads the race now. With this static fire test explosion new glenn might not launch for a year now with the pad damage. Also they dont seem to have much rockets in production at the moment too. So the space race between elon and jeff elon is definitely winning at the moment.
ReplyDeleteElon was always winning. New Glenn’s dual propellent design is too expensive to compete with Falcon 9 or Heavy, let alone Starship when it enters service.
DeleteIsn't starship dual propellant too though methalox which is methane and oxygen or does dual propellant mean something different to what i think it means.
DeleteNo, starship uses methalox for upper and lower stages. This greatly simplifies pad handling, methane and oxygen liquify at similar temperatures and same tanks fuel both stages. Aldo the rocket tanks are st similar temperatures. Same with falcon 9 using keralox for both stages.
DeleteNew Glenn uses hydrolox for its upper stage and methalox for its lower stages, which means additional tanks for handling. Hydrogen has to be cooled to significantly lower temperatures, it requires huge cryogenic tanks because hydrogen is the least dense fuel possible, and hydrogen leaks like crazy because its atom is so tiny.
And lastly, hydrogen damages metallic components over time, it’s called embrittlement. Which means more frequent maintenance. All of this means New Glenn is harder to fuel, has smaller launch windows and will have to delay launches more often because of leaks and component failures.
Thanks for the clarification mate much appreciated
Deletehydrogen atom easily infiltrates into metallic material, resulting in that fuel-tank components become brittle, exacerbating leak of propellant.
DeleteI'm a big SpaceX fan, but I seriously want BO to succeed as well. Having competing heavy lift providers can only be good for the industry as a whole. That said though, I shake my head at the bias many so-called news sites have. One popular space website, who I won't name, is always eager to splash any SpaceX failures at the top of their page for days on end, complete with very critical articles... and yet, after this terrible set-back for BO, this other website has already moved their (small) article to the footer of their front page.
ReplyDeleteHaving one launch pad is going to set Blue Origin and the Moon projects back a long while; maybe SpaceX can take advantage of the mishap with their platform
ReplyDeleteWe should root for both. Two companies advancing state of tte art for super heavy launchers (BO is actively developing an upgraded New Glenn with 9 first stage engines and 4 upper stage engines) means more options for Artemis missions, other deep space missions, and building much larger space stations at a far lower cost than ISS.
DeleteAnd Imagine if Starship suffers a launch failure a couple years into service that forces a long halt to launches. Having New Glenn flying regularly will be critical for every organization putting lots of mass into orbit.
Agree, but SpaceX had the foresight to build multiple launch platforms, Blue Origin did not, and they are paying the piper for that. They will recover in time. I am all for multiple companies launching into space.
DeleteSad to see another launch system loss, but let's get the bugs out before we even consider putting people on-board.
ReplyDeleteI am loving the caption on the file picture of New Glenn sitting on the launch pad and predicts the future. It says that a rocket like this blew up during a test on May 28, **2029**.
(Thanks for the chuckle!)
Well, I don't know much about rockets, but I can tell you that this right here was probably pretty expensive. Betting right now Jeff is wishing he had hired better people for rocket design...
ReplyDeleteBillionaires gotta spend their money on Something!
ReplyDelete( At Least Bezos' Ex Wife is SHARING her Share with Humanity!)
Building better, cheaper space launch doesn’t benefit humanity? It does, and so does lowering the cost of buying retail goods and delivering them, and making electric vehicles, etc. what Bezos wife is doing is akin to eating seed corn, liquidating investments in our future to help people today. N she’s her a good person, but isn’t necessarily better for humanity.
DeleteLemme guess: this is not being covered by the Washington Post.
ReplyDeleteNo one should be gleefully to roadblocks in mankind’s advancement into space .. just as corporate sabotage should be dealt with in a real and damaging way to any perpetrators… It could be just a coincidence that BO had just won a solid lunar contract .. or something else.. the fact is New Glenn has already proven its orbital and TLI capabilities and it’s ability to land at sea .. these facts might just get some other corporations really mad because in a real way BO has leapfrogged to the front of the line with NASA .. and the booster is proven reusable..
ReplyDeleteIt’s a sad day when any part of our road to exploration is demolished.. by accident or with intent.. it’s my hope they find out what happened and deal with it and move on .. Thank God no one was hurt or killed ..in the incident..
Interesting comments, when something like this happens with SpaxceX some on here get nearly gleeful. I can only guess it is hate for Musk. Me personally I don't like to see these types of failures by anyone developing this technology as they are set backs, we are on the cusp of a new era, Successes carries us one step further down that road !
ReplyDeleteThe "new era" are the billionaires playing NASA space cadets - and it isn't going well.
DeleteElon Musk's Starship has 12 flights now and while it "kinda works" it's still far away from being able to support any Deep Space mission. The HLS version of Starship, Tanker version of Starship, and the Propellant Depot version of starship are still in the "vapor-ware" stage. And more bad news is likely coming from SpaceX, because I seriously doubt they made up a 65 ton payload deficit with the V3 design. They will need the larger V4 Starship for tankers to keep the number of Propellant delivery missions to a more reasonable (but still awful) number - something less than 20!!
Last night we had Jeff Bezos and Blue Origin destroying an entire New Glen Rocket, and their only launch complex, during a test. It's doubtful they will recover from this in less than a year, so the chances of Blue Origin being ready for Artemis III are now ... ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH!!
Finally we have billionaire Jared Isaacman, who canceled the Block 1B SLS wasting billions in tax payer dollars to invest in the more capable (and the one we really needed) SLS Launch Vehicle. It could have gotten a crew of four and co-manifested payload to the Moon .. in a single launch!!! Canceled because it wouldn't be ready in time for Artemis IV, and moving forward NASA wanted to rely these billionaire Commercial Launch Partners. But neither SpaceX or Blue Origin are anywhere close to being ready. NASA needed Block 1B and yes it was expensive - but at this point, I don't think there is a cheaper and better way to get to the Moon. Failure is VERY MUCH AN OPTION for SpaceX and Blue Origin.
SpaceX has lowered the cost of access to space by 95% and launched 165 payloads into orbit last year alone, and has the highest launch success rate in history.
DeleteStarship is still only in its 7th year of development, same time frame the Saturn V wasn’t human rated and just had a massive test failure where POGO almost ripped apart its upper stages. Starship is far more capable and advanced than the SLS, which despite being built out of existing engines took 11 years to make space. The SLS has cost $30B in development and $4B per launch, it’s a fiscal and engineering disaster given it’s not capable of landing humans on the moon. Throwing more money at this boondoggle would be lunacy given commercial rockets cost less than 10% as much per ton to orbit.
People who keep saying things like Starship has had 12 test flights and they failed, don't really understand the way SpaceX has changed engineering. Their pace is unprecedented and that is why Elon went from being down to his last few million dollars (after the 3rd failure to launch the Falcon 1) to being the richest guy on the planet with a space company that puts more tonnage into orbit than all the other space agencies in the world... combined!
DeleteMark my words... and I'll eat them if I am wrong, but Starship will meet NASA's milestones by next year (oribital refueling and a LEO meet & greet with an Orion capsule) SpaceX also has a 100% success rate on human rated spaceflight, while NASA killed 14 people in only 135 shuttle missions ( a close to 2% failure rate... while their own regs say the risk should be less then 0.2%)
SpaceX is also fully transparent about their failures, as much as their successes, while the only video we'll probably ever see from BO of this static fire explosion, are from the myriad cameras that web sites have outside the boundaries of CCSFS.
Not sure if you have been paying attention, but the federal government continues to cut funding for space and space exploration . Apollo missions ended, the Space shuttle program ended, there were more iterations and plans for those. The politicians wanted arms and social program spending as it keeps going on the chopping block. These private companies are what is left, or we hand this technology off to China.
DeleteUnbelievable.
ReplyDeleteThe New Glenn story shows a video of the previous, flight. Not the video thats been out an hour after it happend.
I guess that might get too many peoples attention?
Look up to the next up video. It's there in full glory.
DeleteSo.
DeleteAfter trying to post to the SpaceX/FAA. story and ending up here, I will ask again because this report makes my point...
Question.
Who has egg on their face now?
Who else now has what just hit the fan on theirs?
And who gets to walk right through it (because they earned it) with a smile on theirs?
I love karma.
Humm, just found this on Dave Limp's Wiki. "Limp decided to join Blue Origin as CEO after Bezos proposed it to him. Although Limp's initial feeling was that he didn't know a lot about rockets, Bezos convinced Limp over a couple of months."
ReplyDeleteHey Jeff, you might want someone who knows a lot about rockets, to run your rocket company. If you don't know, then you just don't know, what you don't know.
Blue origin has made substantial progress since Limp took over, it was mired in bureaucratic muck and far from making orbit. Don’t mistake an accident, which happens to all launch providers, with bad leadership.
DeleteLet me guess!... A faulty COPV!
ReplyDeleteI swear, Blue Origin just can not stop copying SpaceX.
ReplyDeleteSpaceX only took 4 months to get going again after Amos-6 blew up, but they had a 2nd launch pad going.
ReplyDeleteYes, was just noticing where they said there is only one launch pad for Blue Origin... Redundancy is an important part of engineering for a reason... Dang, that was one Big Boom!!
DeleteBlue Origin only got access to 1. SpaceX has 9 launch stations, ocuppied, on Cape Canaveral. The remaning 3, 1 is for Blue Origin and 2 are been cleaned up.
DeleteWonder if they'll shift one of those to Blue Origin?
DeleteJeff and Elon are preparing July 4th fireworks again. Cape Canaveral may not survive. (edited)
ReplyDeleteSo you generously inform us the rocket was uncrewed. Great news, huh? But... of course it was uncrewed! It was a hot fire test, and the rocket was firmly anchored to the ground, so it couldn't move under any human agency. There was no conceivable use for a crew of any sort. Stop feeding us with this sort of non-news.
ReplyDeleteDave limp. Uhhuhuhuh limp
ReplyDeleteBezos missed his calling. He should be making fireworks.
ReplyDeleteJeffy my boy,
ReplyDeleteLooks like you are replacing this rocket rather quickly.......
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Space is really important. China is way advance than we are. We need a space program because we need to be on the same level as others. If there is war up in space example like taking down satellites, and such we are screwed if we haven't developed a defense. Everything is run off of satellites, your phones, tv , computers , we need to protect our crap. Lot more to it. We were paying Russia to go up in their rockets like wth we need our own stuff.
ReplyDeleteThat's ok. They will be fully reimbursed for all expenses by trump and the gov't... at taxpayer expense, of course.
ReplyDeleteYou had a bad day Jeff.
ReplyDeleteWe've gone nowhere in 60 years
ReplyDeleteThey go into detail about how fast the ship or craft would have to travel and the great distances. They delve into talk about rockets and using anti-matter as ways of propulsion. Not once though do they introduce the topic of these crafts using wormholes to achieve the feat of traveling great distances in a much simpler way than actually traversing such magnificent distances. Seems a shame to limit the article and exclude these ideas.
ReplyDeleteI dont need to know anything, especially from Blog. What you need to knoe is this news is days old.
ReplyDeletePrices at Amazon are going up.
ReplyDeleteThe American Space Program is in shambles... Artimis was fake.... Space X is failing so is Bezos and NASA.
ReplyDeleteSaw a wolf today. He told me things... things that would chill your soul. Trump, Hegeth, Elon, and Area 54 ... very active... HAARP.... The Mothership approaches. Deny all you want... but everything is about to change, and the cancellation of the Mid Terms and our Epstein Files is just the beginning! There are signs in the Earth and signs in the Skies that cannot be denied! Restive animals are attacking... the Earth is rent with yawning cracks.... Fire and flood, and disease are rampant! Everything you see is built upon the bones of what went before. Gaia is but a minor deity. She will be overwritten, like a billion others. Eggs are up, too!
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ReplyDeleteNASA???? NASA???? The NASA which gave Boeing $4.6 BILLIONS to build a capsule?? The NASA which has NEVER built a rocket?? The NASA that always paid at least three to four times what a program cost?? That NASA????
ReplyDelete6 of the 11 spacex starship launch attempts have resulted in catastrophic, destructive, failures.
ReplyDeleteEven an amateur could look at that launch and tell you something was wrong.
ReplyDeleteIn other news: The tank company's WHITE paint test was a success under extreme heat conditions.
ReplyDeleteIt's funny how people have an opinion as to how someone should spend the money they've earned.
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ReplyDeleteToo bad Katey Perry and Oprah weren’t on board.
ReplyDeleteBezos just needs to stick to delivering packages.
ReplyDelete"The billionaires want to dominate commercial space travel," while facing no restrictions, fines or other responsibilities for polluting the air, land and oceans every time they explode or sink.
ReplyDeleteI would say you have a lot of work to do before having another rocket test. Scale down the size and start over to save $$$ since this test wasted millions!
ReplyDeleteWell I hope he pays for the taxpayers property he damaged! Not one single penny of tax payer dollars should to the clean up and rebuilding of any and all the damage it caused. What a waste of resources , time. life, money, We are destroying our planet and for what? who controls resources, Who determines the rule of law and has the weapons and power to do so. My race is human, My nationality is earthling. Maybe its time we all learn how to share. Put down the weapons and stop racing for the latest and greatest weapons to dominate others. Anything or person that creates conflict and division. It is not good and cannot feel right, This feels all wrong and not one single tax payer dollar should go to this, Nasa and the United states military been using That pad for a very long time and this never happened before. Taking money away from the professionals is penny wise and dollar foolish, SURE HOPE AMERICANS do not have to spend money on this, That is our property Bezos destroyed, He can pay for it with his capital.
ReplyDeleteI know why too many China made parts
ReplyDeleteIt shows how dangerous space travel is. All missions, including the Artemis missions, should be put on pause until every detail is figured out what went wrong with this rocket. We can't just pretend it didn't happen.
ReplyDeletegive elon a lie detector test. SABOTAGE among billionaires? !!!!!!
ReplyDeleteAnomaly? Really I think an "Oh $#!+" moment.
ReplyDeleteShipping cost just went up for Amazon customers
ReplyDeleteBet that made a helluva noise.
ReplyDeleteSo i am assuming that it is not a good time to IPO their stock. We will see if there is the side effects to spaceX ipo.
ReplyDeleteMaybe change the name of the rocket.
ReplyDeleteTHE MOTHERSHIP TOOK IT OUT!
ReplyDeletetrumps fat orange fingers will be posting on social media tonight about how close to the Whitehouse the meteor came and a reason he needs over a billion dollars of taxpayer money to protect him and future presidents from meteors
ReplyDeletegood. glad his junk broke down. what a bunch of vanity and waste of money. he should have to pay to clean the junk up now
ReplyDeleteIt worked perfectly. Trump will use these rockets for his birthday fireworks, in the grand finale.
ReplyDelete$ 1.8 Billion U.S. Taxpayer Dollars
ReplyDeleteFor Insurrectionists ?
-- Sycophantic Denialism
I'm left of center politically and approaching 70... I remember watching Glenn, Sheppard,
ReplyDeleteGemini, apollo... the shuttle, and I have never thought NASA was a waste of money., though Im sure there is some waste given the com
plexity.. I'm a sci fy nerd so I am a believer in "Space, the final frontier"... however, regarding this privatization, I'm a bit skeptical of the budget-profit motive dynamic...Posters do have a point questioning why we are not spending more money on human services...yet the space program continues to improved weather tracking and other global environmental observational needs..unfortunately for the moment we have an administration that ignores environmental science
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ReplyDeleteHere's an idea. Bezos and Musk need to join their efforts and succeed. Then, they need to be the only two people on a one way mission to Mars.
ReplyDeleteThis explosion would add $200 billion to SpaceX's valuation.
ReplyDeleteWhen computers are doing all the work, those entering the information are not as intelligent as their predecessors, as their predecessors actually had to do the work. Big difference in little boys who go to college today and those who went before calculators and google.
ReplyDelete"Privatize all public services, the private sector can handle them better than the government"
ReplyDeleteThe private sector in question:
Not noted here were all the 911 calls made after the explosion, showing the true intellectual level of many of the observers. Gee folks, you really thought nobody but you noticed the explosion and fireball? And that nobody connected with the launch kinda figured out something went wrong? Wow.
ReplyDeleteGot a bud of mine who retired from Boeing. He worked from the Apollo to the shuttle tenure as a senior project logistics engineer (Ph.D.; MIT) . He's been fiddling around with the numbers and feasibility. To establish a four person moon habitat by 2035. $500-750 billion dollars. To feed and supply the four person outpost. $250, 000 a day per person. It's all about cost of transportation and specialty equipt for given environment.
ReplyDeleteThe man baby and his ridiculous toys. The moon is, always will be uninhabitable. Men. Men have these bizarre outlooks. Men spin lies in the face of people they think are gullible. To achieve nothing. But they are given government contracts, money, to keep it going. Sickening.
ReplyDeleteshould have saved it for the 4th of July... what a display it would have been to celebrate such a grand occasion !!!!
ReplyDeleteIt blue up alright!
ReplyDeleteanother freeloading billionaire. they should be made to build their own facilities and stop feeding off the American people.
ReplyDelete"The billionaires want to dominate commercial space travel.."
ReplyDeleteWho else can afford it?
Democrats decrying billionaires so much - at least they're spending their money on this.
Are we going to have to pay for this as well?
ReplyDeleteYour Amazon Prime membership just went up.
ReplyDeletehumans using liquid bombs to get to space , 70 years and still the same technology, We need a Manhattan project for anti gravity . Our neighbors in space have to be shaking their heads in disbelief
ReplyDeleteElon did it.
ReplyDeletewell, back to the drawing board.
ReplyDeleteWell that won't affect global warming at all!
ReplyDeleteNot a good day to brag about being a rocket scientist.
ReplyDeleteAnother little "Oopsie" from one of Trump's Republican Billionaire Buds!
ReplyDeleteThere is only one person that would benefit by blowing up the rocket, and that is Elon Musk. He needs to be investigated.
ReplyDeleteWhy couldn't Dot47d have been the test pilot on it? he'd have been the best test pilot. No other test pilot could have come close to being as good as he would have been. GUARANTEE it wouldn't have exploded had Dot47d been the test pilot.
ReplyDeleteCan’t I make the determination of “What You (I) Need to Know”? What is this with writers assuming what is important and what is not with respect to information….. I can only assume this stems from the writer’s teachers instructing the test versus teaching material that could be on the test. What you need to know……. Insulting.
ReplyDeleteRough day? Is your wife still going around ''collecting'' donations for this July 4th 2026, 250 Year celebration, for Trump's pockets?
ReplyDeleteDidn't mention gas prices?
ReplyDeleteNASA had a way worse track record in the beginning. Give it time.
ReplyDeleteA rocket analomy?
ReplyDeleteBezos is running a space circus. He has enough clowns.
ReplyDeleteArticle fails to mention SpaceX most recent launch ended with a booster crashing in to the sea, AS PLANNED.
ReplyDeleteBest fireworks display EVER!!!!!
ReplyDeleteThese are the same scientist that says my diesel truck is evil..
ReplyDeleteThey should be fined for the polluting. Liberals will destroy this world
ReplyDeleteTissue?
DeleteThey should have launched it from Vandenburg. CC are a bunch of clowns.
ReplyDeleteFirst one aboard could be a scrambled egg?
ReplyDeleteThis so called $1B 'Glenn Rocket' has the dangerous potential to be a Hindenburg 2 like tragedy over our skies. It really should be investigated. delayed
ReplyDeleteI hope NASA picks space X for the lunar lander, supposedly ready by 2028. I don't think trusting blue origin at this point is a good idea. (edited)
ReplyDeleteBezos lit up Canaveral like Putin lights up a Romanian apartment building!
ReplyDeleteJust maybe when the Chinese are running around on the moon, we'll realize that it wasn't such a good idea to not make rich boys like Musk and Bezos pay their taxes and let them play rocket-boy. Make them pay their taxes and let NASA do it's job. Oh wait. They Trump crew doesn't believe NASA made it to the moon.
ReplyDeleteWhy do we let rich people have such expensive hobbies while so many could use that money to get out of poverty, pay for elderly care, pay for child care, pay for any care at all? We still have homelessness and hunger in this country, and many fear losing their jobs, which they will in turn lose their health insurance, retirement, and everything else tied to our occupations. Before we have a trillionaire, don't you guys think we should button up these other issues? At this rate, these rich guys are going to knock out every satellite.
ReplyDeleteWe need to get Trump on one of these rockets and make America great again!
ReplyDeleteJeff and Elon, the Boom Bros.
ReplyDeleteI can’t imagine how NASA assigns a contract to someone with no experience in a very specific and dangerous industry.
ReplyDeleteUltimate pro of going to space really amounts to those that want an alternative to earth finding a safe and efficient way to travel.
ReplyDeleteUltimate con of attempting to go to space is the massive waste in failures related to money, abuse to the earth and loss of life when it occurs.
That was a huge explosion. I wonder if those living nearby thought it was a bomb.
ReplyDeleteBezos and Musk X-plode should just donate money to NASA
ReplyDeletealmost as rough as random groupies trying to reinterpret sporting events to give fake narratives to their forgotten cast of old nobodies
ReplyDeleteoops money cannot buy you out of everything.
ReplyDeleteImage sending a crew in that thing.
ReplyDeleteShould have saved the launch test for the 4th!
ReplyDeleteGood one.
DeleteYup, not as easy as it looks, is it?
ReplyDeleteDid anyone check to see if Elon Musk was lurking around the launch pad?
ReplyDeleteI love that amazons stock price dropped. I hope the rockets blow up from now to infinity
ReplyDeleteI take it his rockets are self-insured? Big number, can't be letting that happen too often but at least they weren't manned.
DeleteRough because you forgot to put a certain Florida resident in it? Yeah, that’s rough…
ReplyDeleteHannity?
DeleteNo mention of the stranded astronauts? That was a pretty big failure.
ReplyDeleteOUCH! Now everything on Amazon is going to go up in price by 20%.
ReplyDeletenice to have enough money to build a Rocket.Ipersonally would donate to help people here on earth though no offense each to bthier own..
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ReplyDeleteMusk space x is the world leader... Why would you pay some one else to do what hes ben doing for years
ReplyDeleteBecause NASA has been run by progressives and they won't work with Musk unless they are forced to
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ReplyDeleteNo!!!! A rough day is when you get diagnosed with cancer or do not have enough money to pay your bills!!!! Let's get a clue Bezos and the rest of you super wealthy!
ReplyDeletethe next launch of your rocket please ask trump to sit in an astronuts seat in the capsule
ReplyDeleteKind of scary that these are to be a part of the future manned missions. But the US government had plenty of rocket failures in the early days, too. Still, one must wonder whether those lessons have been properly incorporated into these private programs.
ReplyDeleteGreedy greedy Jeff
ReplyDelete😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
No katy perry and friends?
ReplyDeletePoor baby. Bombing and starving children can be ignored but his money going up in flames is a rough day. Psychotic billionaire
ReplyDeleteFor advancement, he is hurting, for the cost, not so much
ReplyDeleteA shame Bezos wasn't on it with Musk and Zuck.......
ReplyDeleteYeah…we don’t tax billionaires enough.
ReplyDeleteWould have been way the eff worth it if Bezos and/or Musk were aboard..... just sayin'
ReplyDeleteeff u. just sayin.
DeleteBig boom. Big big boom. Woot.
ReplyDeleteEvery day is a rough day for this groveling sycophant with no integrity and moral compass.
ReplyDeleteHow much is this going to cost tax payers
ReplyDeleteBezos and Musk are just polluting our oceans with all these failed rocket projects. These guys just have too much money while their companies are laying off thousands of people. Not sure about Bezos, but with Musk it's likely a large portion is taxpayer money that is going into all this rocket nonsense since our government gives him billions in contracts. He's the only one profiting and gaining from them while people are struggling because of his boy Trump.
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ReplyDeleteWhy wasn't he onboard?
ReplyDeleteman, that was entertaining.
ReplyDeleteGood grief!! Hiroshima was 13 kilo tons and this looks close to that. The over all outputs will not be the exact same as one is chemical and hiroshima was atomic level but that was at least 50-75% of Hiroshima. 5 kilotons at a minimum!!
ReplyDeleteI bet that cost Bezos quite a few million. He can afford it.
ReplyDeleteStaged! Right Libs?
ReplyDeleteYo mama is staged.
DeleteNo, hilarious.
DeleteAn anomaly? UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE YEAR.
ReplyDeleteWouldn't put it past Musk to have a hand in this convenient little setback for his rival.
ReplyDeleteAmazon prime price increase coming soon.....gotta pay for that new rocket.
ReplyDeleteWho's going to pay for the damage to the launch site? The billionaire or the taxpayers? Take a guess.
ReplyDeleteSelf-absorbed egomaniacs, building rockets... Really does wonders for humanity jeff...
ReplyDeleteThis type of story, after which commenters always want to see the government do the hard work of development and exploration always makes me think of America in the age of steam. Railroads and steamships were primarily developed by private enterprise, at least until the financing of the transcontinental railway, which was at least partly seen as a national security issue. Contracts with Space X to put satellites in orbit are somewhat analogous to 19th century mail carriage contracts, important revenue for doing important work. The Chinese will be in this race hell for leather, and an explosion or two along the way won't slow them down, we can count on that. If today's U.S. government had been in charge of building the transcontinental railway we would be looking forward to bridging the Missouri River any day now.
ReplyDeleteYou don't know that. All you're doing is advancing the MYTH that private enterprise is better at development when it clearly isn't. Musk is blowing up rockets too. That's a lot of wasted money that could have gone to feeding our starving children or helping prevent the spread of Ebola. How about we prioritize the problems we have here on earth first?
DeleteNonsense.
DeleteAnd that's how the rich get out of the Space Business and collect insurance money!
ReplyDeleteBuild a hospital, or tiny homes. Do something nice for your employees. Pull your head out of ........
ReplyDeleteSpaceX has experienced a total of 13 catastrophic mission and test failures across its three major rocket programs. This includes 3 in-flight failures with the Falcon 1, 3 mission failures with the Falcon 9, and 7 explosive failures during early experimental test flights of the Starship program.
ReplyDeleteBut, but, but private industry is supposed to be so much better for the country and is it really private, when the Government is paying for it?
DeleteHow much will Bezos owe to Nasa for blowing up their launch pad at Cape Canaveral?
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ReplyDeleteMEANWHILE.......
ReplyDeleteUnited States Special Envoy To The Middle East ,
And "World PieceMaker", Steve Witkoff ,
IS IN PERSONAL BUSINESS WITH ,
The Prime Minister Of Qatar.
And Some Russians.
-- Sycophantic Denialism
I hope it sets him back a bunch of money and a ton of time.
ReplyDeleteThe "horizon" looks kinda brown at the moment.
ReplyDeleteYep. This is proof that private industry does everything better than the government. /s
ReplyDeleteWhat? Not an unintentional rapid disassembly prior to launch?
ReplyDeleteFlorida doesn't care about the environment. And I'm sure there are no regulations covering explosions of this type. Good luck with all of the deadly stuff this explosion unleashed into the air.
ReplyDeleteThe byproduct of hydrogen fuel is H2O. You know, water
Delete... it's just money. There's more where that came from.
ReplyDeletehe needs to give the next flight a test run.
ReplyDeletebezos has more money than he knows what to do with. Maybe he should pay some taxes.
ReplyDeleteNo, a "rough day" occurred in January 1986, when the Challenger blew up.
ReplyDeleteGotta love the soft language. They had an "anomaly" That means the rocket exploded.
ReplyDeleteJeff bezos is the equivalent of Lex luther
ReplyDeleteHe should just teather satellites to space x rockets
ReplyDeleteThese are the same clowns they preach global warming and then they do this nonsense.
ReplyDeleteBezos recently announced that millions of people will be living in space by the year 2045. Yea sure the same race of people that have gone nowhere in 60 years of attempts to travel farther than the edge of the earths atmosphere
ReplyDeleteSurprise, Surprise
ReplyDeleteHeck with the mfg process of nowadays, its lucky the bolts arent made of teflon. I bought a brand new food processor and replaced it with the same model 3 times and all 3 times, the exact same button quit working after a week. Mfg process and materials are just so inferior and just meant to be throwaway instead of american made classic long lasting products.
ReplyDeleteChina would have it built with in a month
ReplyDeleteah, what a shame, try again.
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