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Musk lied about monkey deaths, report says
Elon Musk claimed that no test monkeys died as a result of a Neuralink implant. A new report refutes those claims. Credit: Nathan Laine/Bloomberg via Getty Images |
On the same day Elon Musk announced that his brain implant device company Neuralink is preparing for its first human trials, a damning new report featuring insight from a former Neuralink employee shed new light on the brutal conditions that Neuralink's test monkey's underwent before being euthanized.
Inquiries and investigations have previously been launched regarding potential animal welfare violations at the company. However, the issue was once again thrust into the spotlight last week after Musk claimed that no monkeys had died as a result of the Neuralink implant.
"No monkey has died as a result of a Neuralink implant," Musk said in a post on X. Regarding early implants, Musk made the claim that, "to minimize risk to healthy monkeys, we chose terminal [monkeys] (close to death already)."
Ten days later, Musk would share a Neuralink post about how the company would soon roll-out human trials.
"We’re excited to announce that recruitment is open for our first-in-human clinical trial!" posted the official Neuralink account on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, earlier this week.
Musk added his own comment as well.
"The first human patient will soon receive a Neuralink device," Musk followed up in an X post on Wednesday, explaining the potential benefits the company is hoping to provide with the device for those with quadriplegia or ALS.
"Imagine if Stephen Hawking had had this," Musk continued.
Hours later, Wired would publish a new report detailing the torturous conditions the test monkeys underwent before their eventual deaths, directly disputing Musk's recent claims about the animals and their suffering.
According to Wired, records show that one monkey was euthanized in March 2019 after her health declined in the months following the Neuralink implant. A report found that the monkey's brain was bleeding and the implant left "parts of her cerebral cortex focally tattered." According to the report, the issues began in the days following the implant as the monkey started to push her head against the floor, signaling she was in pain. The monkey would pick at the implant, another sign of the animal's discomfort. Eventually the monkey lost coordination and would "shake uncontrollably" around Neuralink workers.
A monkey who received the Neuralink implant in December 2019 was euthanized after part of the device "broke off" during the surgery. The company attempted another surgery to fix the issue but found fungal and bacterial infections which they could not clear because the implant was blocking the infected area. Another monkey was euthanized just months later after "his cranial implant became loose."
In addition, the report shared comments from a former Neuralink employee as well as a researcher with knowledge of the tests, both of whom refuted Musk's claims about the monkeys being terminally ill before the Neuralink implants. The former employee called Musk's claim "ridiculous" and shared that the monkeys had to undergo a year of behavioral training before the implants.
To read the report in full, check out Wired's piece here.
Elon pushes how great the things Neuralink is doing.
ReplyDeleteWired published a new report "detailing the torturous conditions the test monkeys underwent before their eventual deaths."
Before someone says well, monkeys dying could help, maybe millions of people ask themselves, can the same thing be said about death in self-driving cars today vs. where the self-driving tech could do in the future?
Are the folks using Elon's self-driving cars just like those monkeys?
How can anyone buy a car from that man?
good point!
DeleteExcept for the fact that the Tesla self driving system is much safer than a human driver… and the Tesla’s are the safest cars in the world, have the highest safety rating of any car.
DeleteA Tesla driven by FSD or autopilot has only about 10% of the risk of ending up in an accident as a human driver using the same car.
media kind of pushes anything Elon related as if it's an evil villain, definitely wouldn't trust anything they published as fact.. surely you can't be that gullible
DeleteSo then his company was not involved with "detailing the torturous conditions the test monkeys underwent before their eventual deaths."
DeleteWhy should I belive what you say?
every medical drug on the market has torture numerous animal in trials before it was ready for humans so what exactly is your point here. Go adopt some monkeys since you pretending to care so much. Pretty sure you'd rather it be mice and monkeys and not your loved ones, choose one buddy
Delete"Except for the fact that the Tesla self driving system is much safer than a human driver"
DeletePlease tell me more about that. Do you use it all the time since it's a better driver than you are?
It's like you didn't even read my comment.
Delete"Before someone says well, monkeys dying could help, maybe millions of people ask themselves, can the same thing be said about death in self-driving cars today vs. where the self-driving tech could do in the future?"
First I’ll say I fully love the idea of Tesla cars. Mostly everything about them reminds me of the future that I’d like to be a part of. But they’re not anywhere near perfect…yet. So I get how someone could make the argument that if you buy one now and fully trust their autonomous features, there’s a good chance of death or injury. I won’t buy one yet. But I do hope they’re farther along from a dependency standpoint in about 5 years.
DeleteTesla FSD is not available here in Norway yet, but Autopilot works very well. I have followed the developments of FSD since the beginning, and it has improved massively just in the last year, version 11.4.7 is almost flawless. Version 12 will be the first version out of beta, at which point I expect a human driver will become unnecessary(at least where the laws are ready for fully self driving vehicles).
DeleteMy statement earlier regarding the Teslas Autopilot and FSD being safer than a human driver, was not based on my personal experience, but on earlier statistics released by Tesla... newer statistics based on number from both Tesla and the NHSTA, are a bit less impressive, but still the autopilot is almost 9 times safer than a regular car with a human driver, while the FSD is about 5 times safer. So still much safer than human drivers.
Auto Accidents Per Million Miles in 2022:
* Tesla vehicles with Autopilot (mostly highway): 0.18
* Tesla vehicles with FSD (mostly non-highway): 0.31
* U.S. average vehicle: 1.53
Great, so you use it all the time because it's a better driver than you are?
DeleteIt's not amazing the number of Elon Cultists commenting on this.
DeleteWhat's your point? That I am a lousy driver? 🤣
DeleteDid I say that? With all that information it looks like Elon's AI is better than you at driving but this is where you think you're the best driver ever.
DeleteWhy anyone would ever believe anything that comes out of this guy's mouth, I'll never understand.
ReplyDeletetribalism, same reason they still believe Trump and Carlson
Deletedo Teslas roll?
DeleteBesides hitting target after target after target,? Yeah, he should use his time as a keyboard genius instead…
DeleteSure, US is doing so much better with Biden…..
Deletewe aren’t the laughing stock of the world anymore. Or Putin’s puppet.
Deletedo Teslas roll?
Deletewho should we believe instead?
DeleteOurselves instead of these celebrities.
DeleteWow good luck finding a human to volunteer.
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DeleteWhy is anyone surprised? The man is a liar and hasn’t created anything. He’s just daddy’s boy with lots of money from an emerald mine that bought out every real person responsible for creating PayPal and Tesla.
ReplyDeleteThere were two versions at the outset, the better of which did not accrue scar tissue in the cerebrum was made from iridium, oddly enough a non native element from the Yucatan impact cataclysm event. Makes you think
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Deleteplease do expand on this
Deleteall public information in the patent proposal a couple years back by now, I'm not sure if I can find the link. So in pigs brain, I believe the gold and platinum version produced a formation of scar tissue that was deliterious to the vitality of the organism and device over time, and was also less capable, storage of differing bandwidths and stimulus was also greater for the more brain vitality friendly Iridium version. I think reading between the lines they were on track to being able to generate visual data that was experienced by the consciousness during dreamstate, an ability which would have potentially very good or very bad consequences or more likely an admixture of both......I mean I just thought of Necrobot Fentanyl Spider drug delivery device LLC, the dystopian mascot for the cthonic city of Dark Web. Lol I gotta stop the mans gonna be mad I promise to go to bed as soon as a favorable opportunity is attained. Sorry everyone....
DeleteHave I elaborated with adequate sufficiency good sir? Lol
DeleteI'm a science man, and I love animals, so it's a tough one without knowing all the details, but one thing I do know is that capitalism and morality do not mix.. I lean toward similar instances, and would assume that if Elon doesn't care about his workers, he probably don't give a fxxk about some monkeys either.. Its for a product, not medicine, so thats another red flag..
ReplyDeleteYou got that spot on. He once said of his former wife, ' if you were an employee I'd fire you'. What a guy. Low EQ.
Deletebecause medicine isn't a product?
DeleteDo you think they just give that away?
he really is that villain from the first Venom film.
ReplyDeleteSo Elon will be the first human to get one, right?
ReplyDeleteNo. It will be tested on beggars or people of the sort.
Deleteit was rhetorical. Of course he wont put his money where his mouth is.
DeleteThe man is crazy 🤪 he can test it on himself lol
ReplyDeleteWell..... he need look no further,
ReplyDeleteHis ace has plenty test dummies
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Genius.
ReplyDeleteWhy is anyone surprised, Elon Musk is a tool who just loves his money.
ReplyDeleteThat inspires confidence.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah I trust the Muskrat 😕
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DeleteKeep in mind, what businessmen tell to gather investors in public, is not always what the public should know about the background.
ReplyDeleteAnd in the medicine, how many animals die there every year? I don't judge him, it just were better, if the procedure were safe enough, that the monkeys don't needed to die 😞
yes, in medicine. That’s the other issue, this is not “medicine”. This is literally scientific experimentation of hardware to “wetware” interface. While it could in the future be used to address issues and seen as a form of medicine, right now this is not even remotely close to that.
DeleteThis is closer to “we tortured a bunch of sick primates so we can have a whole new tier of product to sell people”
yes I agree with you, ethically it's not right
DeleteThen it’s odd you would say you don’t judge him for torturing animals to chase fame and profits.
Deletewhen you completely lack empathy
ReplyDeleteI'm shocked Musky lied
ReplyDeleteDon't trust this grifter.
ReplyDeleteI understand his excitement however in order to have a brain interface like he wants we need to fully map and truly understand the human brain and how exactly it reacts to all stimuli. We have some insain capabilities via tech but that is not one of them. We are still quite far off from that.
ReplyDeleteare you ever aware of what neuralink is? Doesn't seem so
DeletePeople will inexplicably explode next to you on the subway.
ReplyDeleteGreed and ego rule most humans behavior. No suprise here.
ReplyDeleteWell, this is friggin sick!
ReplyDeleteMusk should really be eating his own dog food and have the implant himself
ReplyDeleteVivisection then? Anyone fancy stopping buying his Johnny Cabs then
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone even want this kind of technology?
ReplyDeleteI don't. It's the real beginning of the end when this happens.
Deletereligion doesn't belong in science.
Deletethat statement doesn’t imply a solely religious mentality.
DeleteI know . But think about it... The Christianistas live for the apocalypse... aka Armageddon. This is indeed of those "things" that mark of Revelations speaks of.
Deleteit does since she is implying the same thing most Christian's point to.... Which generally is references to the "mark of the beast" as the beginning of the end for mankind.
Deletepeople who are disable would probable want it.
Deletebut I don't know if this is actually to help the disabled.
Deleteif you actually read, you'd see it is to help the disabled you clown
DeleteI suspect people suffering from ALS might appreciate it. Such a brutal disease. I understand the controversy though. It’s very tricky and scary.
DeleteI can see the appeal to people who are paralyzed. Unfortunately, let’s be realistic, we are FAR from understanding the brain and this step is apparently skipped here.
DeleteAnd humans are monkeys 🙈, no?
ReplyDeleteObviously, to get what he wants
ReplyDeleteWhere is PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) when you need them eh, FREE THE MUSK MONKEYS 🐒 🙈 🙊 🐒 🙈 🙊 🐒
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ReplyDeleteTest it on Elon.
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Deletewhat's that?
DeleteHe can test it on himself first!
ReplyDeleteMusk can tell the truth like some other fascist lying traitor.
ReplyDeleteThose monkeys were already very sick!
ReplyDeleteI would say you're very sick. Is that a mental issue that newer link can fix?
DeleteBased on what?
Deletehe lied about no monkeys dying just like he's lying that they were terminally ill. You have to be sick to believe something like that.
DeleteYou first,Elmo.
ReplyDeletemaybe he did and that's why he acts like a glitchy supervillain robot.
DeleteYou first, bruh.
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ReplyDeleteAll he does is lie. Human garbage. Don’t care how rich he is. May he suffer as much on his way out!
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DeleteHe is a devil worker
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DeleteYou folks are acting like animals aren't tortured daily to bring you new versions of the products you already use.
ReplyDeletethere's some other details you seem to have missed...like the lying, and our brains.
Deletea for-profit company lying for profit?
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DeleteOne thing what is on my mind is capitalism profits and stockmarket profits, about this 🙂
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DeleteI feel like he’s a bond villain at this point I mean seriously he is a bond villain like Putin works for him. We all think that Putin would be this big bad guy in the bond movie but then like Bonwit take out Putin somehow or Putin with fall on himself, and crumble from things bond Attributed to, but then the real enemy of the earth wind here it’s a little face, and it would be the guy that plays savor for simple profit margine🙌. Let’s not forget that as the richest man in the world he could’ve been doing so many things but instead snuck into Johnny Depp’s house and slept with his then wife Amber heard, and Johnny Depp and Amber is bad.😂 If that doesn’t scream red flags I don’t know what does.😂🙌🙌😂
ReplyDeleteMusk lied? No way!
ReplyDeleteGuys so so strange 👽
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ReplyDeleteHe is truly an inhumane disgusting creature
ReplyDeleteHe’s a b**t***k, period.
ReplyDeleteSounds like an ad lib.
ReplyDeleteMashable keeping that Elon hate train full speed ahead 😂
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ReplyDeleteSEC needs to throw this crook
ReplyDeleteIn jail
Mass Shamable has cultivated a herd of Musk haterz.
ReplyDeletePremonitions that it is 90% good but need to take drugs to allow implants to settle and take it on new psychology outlooks on new audio in heads and new speeches so cool
ReplyDeleteIf watching James Bond villains since the 1960s has taught me anything...The last thing I would do is pay Elon to put a chip in my head. 🤣
ReplyDeleteThat was the inspiration for this guy, I reckon
Deletenail on the head! He is definitely a Bond villain
Delete*monkeys
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ReplyDeleteThis is sickening to read
ReplyDeleteMusk lied?????? I’m shocked!!!!!
ReplyDelete* Please note the sarcasm *
Of course he lied.
ReplyDeleteDidn't he say he was going to get one put in himself? Maybe they should still let him do that?
ReplyDeleteOf course he lied……
ReplyDeleteMonkeyed everybody.!
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