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This report shows the reason there is no trust in the Media. Calling RFKJ a vaccine sceptic is intentionally misleading and they know it. They leave out the fact that he is not across the board against vaccines but thinks as many doctors agree, that giving MRNA vaccines, that are unproven is a bad idea. Also giving them to children as soon as they are born is very suspect and potentially dangerous. The media know this nuance and just leave it out in order to mislead the public. Lying is the most hideous thing a media outlet can do.. Anther lie the media pushes is that the FBI had no field agents that participated in the riot. The FBI may not have set fires or threw fire bombs but they opened doors encouraging entry by holding doors open for people giving anyone walking up the impression that it was OK to walk in. The media has become an arm of the Democrat party and its corrupt,, unelected, political bureaucrats, The evidence is overwhelming.
Body of this way too long post is very UNDERWHELMING. LOL. The Clown Show Continues! BTW I like CDC officials that do not dump dead bears in Central Park that could pose some serious health problems .......lol....silly MAGA' t ' s
I am 100% sure that TIME MAG was well aware of all the negativity / crimes / convictions / and all around bad behaviour surrounding the orange dude, BUT they chose to ignore it for their own profits. Whether you hate him or love him, that magazine will have a higher volume of sales with him on the front cover. 🤮 He certainly enables a lot of others to sink to new lows in order to make $ or to be recognized or famous. And how everyone is really liking him and fawning over him now that he is prez again. It’s down right Disgusting and makes me so disappointed in humanity. I am sure none of us would introduce him to any women in our lives or have him in our lives at all if he wasn’t Trump. What a “lot” we’ve become. No spines to stand up and do what’s right. If there is a GOD, now would be a good time to show up to help people see the errors of their ways.
Very plausible. Anything to get those two small-minded narcissists properly at each other’s throats. It’s inevitable eventually, but the sooner the better, and I agree this might help matters more than us normies who do not need fawning attention 24/7 can quite comprehend.
Person of the year is given to the most influential person of the year, whether for good or for bad. That's why Hitler won it in '38, as well as Stalin and Putin.
Yes. Hitler (in 1938), Stalin, Khrushchev, Khomeini, and Putin, all winners. It's not an endorsement, it's a measure of how much of an influence they've had, even when they're (as with this year) a massive scumbag.
Off the top of my head ... threatening to jail rivals, trying to stay in power through violent and illegal means, ultranationalism, othering of groups like Muslims and immigrants, planning to fire apolitical roles to replace them with loyalists, presenting any political opponent as not merely disagreeing but actively immoral or even traitorous, threatening to use military against political opponents, idolising of violent (but loyal to him) criminals, promising to bypass the law by being a dictator, ... the list goes on and on.
So which one of these links is considered "mainstream media"? Because I haven't heard of either. You got anything that people actually saw? Like NBC, CNN, Fox, even your weird OANN shit?
Idk what u mean by “your weird OANN” idek wtf that is, im just a regular american, not some super trump maga whatever, but you guys are so blue pilled here its insane, there is zero chance you dont remember all the articles and news stations calling him a nazi
You also didn't actually post anything that called Trump a Nazi, because you didn't actually read the things you posted (one was from an Australian source). I'm sure you "idek" anything at all.
Babygirl there is a HUGE difference between you finding two videos that say he has rhetoric similar to a nazi rally vs the mainstream media calling him a nazi/threat to democracy. CNN anchors haven’t spouted this rhetoric and in fact has normalized him the entire time.
And then guess what happened, they opened their eyes and saw what was happening in the real world, not your fantasy lgbtq, illegal immigrants everywhere, crime infested hell hole, and they realized its time for change
Well we arent talking about kamala being called a threat to democracy are we? No. The point still stands that mainstream media never was on trumps side
BECAUSE IT IS THE ONLY CONSERVATIVE NETWORK. The left has far more coverage, its not even close. Not to mention social media, twitter used to be a liberal echo chamber -- now X actually reflects reality and election results. Dont even get me started on this site, let alone this sub. The fact this is called "politics" is obscene lol
Oh yeah! That one doesn't count. 90% of their coverage was blasting Trump. Maybe he wasn't directly called a Nazi by anyone 'mainstream' but they sure as hell supported it and parroted it anytime someone did.
"Consider that a lot of the mainstream is in the hands of a guy named Murdoch."
The entirety of media owned by Murdoch in the US is:
Fox News Wall Street Journal New York Post
Then a couple of specialized small mags/sites, like Barron's and MarketWatch.
The owner of Time Magazine is a uber donor to left-wing causes and the Democrat party. He's been called the "woke CEO" and had a habit of going on unhinged rants claiming capitalism was over.
"Tech’s woke CEO takes the stage Salesforce founder Marc Benioff wants to break up Facebook, has pushed for higher taxes on his industry and says capitalism ‘as we know it’ is over. And Washington is listening."
"Time Magazine is entirely owned by a venture capitalist billionaire who is also the CEO of Salesforce."
An openly leftist guy who has donated hundreds of millions to Democrats.
Btw, billionaires have consistently donated more to Democrats than Republicans.
Probably because in the last 4 years, all the Biden administration did was giving away trillions in corporate welfare (or, as democrats now call it, industrial policy).
I don't think so - and I'm not even sure what promised tax cuts you're talking about that could benefit Salesforce or what deregulation plans (deregulation tends to help startups, not big incumbents like Salesforce, who actually tend to want more regulation). But.. you know the guy actually supported Harris, right? Right?
If your point is that the reason the billionaires and big business tend to support Democrats far more than Republicans is because the Democrats policies of subsidies and regulations tend to favor big players, established incumbents, over the small up and coming guys, I do agree with you.
"I'm not even sure what promised tax cuts you're talking"
One of the economic centerpieces of Trump’s campaign. Tax cuts for corps.
"deregulation tends to help startups"
The amount of collusion, anti-competitive practices, and outright crime large business can get up to is very troubling. They don’t want cops on the beat looking at their books.
"But.. you know the guy actually supported Harris, right? Right?"
Billionaires are transactional. He didn’t get where he is by being principled, he got where he is by being a greedy fuck. Fluffing Trump is just his new business transaction.
Trump is a servant of the rich, which all of these folks know, hence the donations and fluffery. You want to simp for a soulless media corpo, be my guest. I ain’t going with you.
Haven’t you heard?! He is 34 time felon! A fascist, racist, sexist, raping pig!! He is LITERALLY HITLER! And all of his followers are Nazis being brainwashed by radical right wing propaganda!
Newsflash - I'm not far left and not a robot. Deep down you know he's a piece of shit too. But he 'owns the libs' so he's a hero to you, right? Pathetic...
Where are you getting this idea from, not even two months ago mainstream media was calling him a threat to democracy, racist, homophobic, and now all of a sudden they love him???? Like cmon man
In the issue published on January 2, 1939, Hitler was recognized as “the greatest threatening force that the democratic, freedom-loving world faces today.”
I feel like a big chunk of never Trump voters want the media to lower any semblance of professionalism and scream that he's a " Nazi" day and night for the next 4 years.
How exactly did he screw up the economy once? Only thing in my understanding that really hurt the economy was covid. There was no big recession under Trump. Claiming that he " will" not might or probably screw up the economy is a bold prediction.
George W Bush was Time person of the year in 2004. Within 3 years he was entering what political observers were calling the lame duck final year of his presidency.
what's wrong with bailing out the banks? if the government would let them go under it would have caused FAR more damage than just bailing them out, besides, most of the money that the US did give the banks were paid back.
Bailing struggling companies out prevented something that had the capacity to worsen the financial crisis.
A large part of that is due to inflation caused by the influx of money entering the market thanks to COVID bailouts sponsored by Trump and Biden together.
"Yet already, the President-elect is moving the goalposts on some of his pledges, like lowering the price of groceries. “It’s hard to bring things down once they’re up,” Trump says. “You know, it’s very hard.” /"
He never started an insurrection He told people to go peacefully to capital. He asked for 10,000 military and Nancy Pelosi denied it and now she has said she realizes it was her fault. You have a warped opinion and you do not do your own research. State media pushed the propaganda
He did a fake elector scheme. John Eastman hatched a plot to install fake electors in all 7 swing states and have them falsely declare trump the winner in states Biden won. He then pressured Mike pense to unilaterally toss the results of the free and fair election and Choose the fake slate of electors. All of the fake electors have been indicted and some are in prison now. In addition, he called Georgia Secretary of State Brad rathlisburger asking to”find” him 11 thousand votes. That case was delayed and will never see the light of day now. Finally he stole classified documents from the White House and when asked by the doj to return them he first refused claiming they were “his” then he deleted footage and had his aid hide them so he could lie and say he gave them all back. He also wrote on his social media site truth that he wants to suspend the constitution. He is a fascist to the core, nobody disputes that anymore. His cult is either uneducated and are unaware of everything I just layed out or….. they like that he’s a fascist and want a strong man to be their daddy/king. Have a nice day
This reveals more about the political leanings of this sub and less about it being a newsworthy event. Not surprising, given that this is a political sub.
This is like saying the official announcement of Biden winning the 2020 election isn't necessary to post because a dozen media houses already forecasted his victory already
You can argue all you like, I'm just suggesting one possible reasonable explanation for this not getting lots of upvotes. This news was posted a bunch of times, people tend to downvote repeated posts. Whatever nuance you think is important in the source or the timing, it doesn't seem that anybody else cares about it.
Another possible reasonable explanation would be that nobody really cares about the Time Person of the Year.
I can't help but get triggered by this. Why do they do this? Why do they insist on lowering the bar continously? The man is a confirmed sexual assaulter and felon. There's credible evidence suggesting he's a pedophile and rapist. He is a notorious liar and a terrible human being.
I don't hate on voters for voting republican, the right-wing media is a fierce machine who is fooling people on a Joseph Goebbels level. Voters are exercising their right.
But SURELY the mainstream media knows all of this? They know who he is, they have both sides, they can see facts and police reports... so why the hell do they do this?? Exhausting.
As people in this very thread have already pointed out, Time names the "Person of the Year" based on their influence, not whether they're "good" or "bad". That's why Hitler, Stalin, and Putin have also gotten the title.
Time Magazine is entirely owned by a venture capitalist billionaire. He and his shareholder buddies are going to make a lot of money from Trump’s tax cuts for the rich.
He had a misdemeanor charge that was upped to 34 felony counts without precedence. Literally weaponization of the courts to smear a pollical opponent. The cases were dismissed because they were bullshit.
"the right-wing media is a fierce machine who is fooling people on a Joseph Goebbels level."
Right wing media is a fierce machine lol. What? You mean Fox News? The left absolutely dominates the news cycle with propaganda that would make Goebbels blush. Insane how out of touch some people on the left are.
This election 80% of the media was NEGATIVE towards Trump, while 75% was POSITIVE for Kamala. In no world can you blame this election on the "fierce right-wing propaganda machine fooling the masses". Kamala lost because she wasn't a good candidate. She hid from the media and came off as fake and scripted. She focused on policies like abortion, when most Americans were more concerned about the border, inflation and de-escalating wars (and there were none under Trump). We need a strong leader, not someone who hides behind a teleprompter. She couldn't even do a 3-hour interview with Rogan, they knew it'd expose her --how do you think she would do negotiating with Putin or Xi? They would walk all over her, just as they have with Biden. 75% of Americans agreed we were on the wrong track under the Biden administration. Kamala herself said she wouldn't have done anything differently.
Harris didn't even make it to the primaries in 2020 within your own party. Are these results really that surprising? You have to be deeply entrenched inside a liberal echo chamber to believe this election was lost because of the big bad right wing propaganda machine lol.
The fact that you think they have walked all over Biden and actually won't with Trump tells me that you're already being fed Fox News on a daily basis... Trump is not respected by Putin or Xi. They are happy he won.
As for the whole people not happy with Biden, I hear you. I get that reasoning, but here's the thing though; if your not happy with your dentist, you get another dentist. You might get recommendations from friends and family, and in the end you end up seeing a new, qualified dentist. You wouldn't go get your mouth drilled by a construction company just cause some people say they've done a great job on others (though can't provide any damn evidence). That's what your doing when you go replace a qualified politician with Donald Trump.
And while we are never gonna see eye to eye on this topic, I appreciate that you presented your view, I'm not saying there are not valid points in the Biden and Kamala criticism, but from my perspective there is just no excuse to sacrifice democracy by voting for a man who actively aims to dismantle it.
Kinda sounds like you agreed with most of what I said till you got to “we need a strong leader”. Im not even an a massive Trump supporter, this is actually the first election I voted in. But do you really think Harris would’ve done a better job? I get people hate the guy but it’s pretty simple. We need to secure our border, deescalate wars abroad.
Do you really think it’s a coincidence that Russia chose to invade Ukraine as soon as Biden took office? They had been trying to take Ukraine from the inside for over a decade. As soon as Biden comes in they start mounting troops on the border. Then Israel happens, plus escalations with Iran and China. You can hate Trump all you want but the fact is they DO respect him. If they don’t respect him they’re scared of him. You achieve peace through strength, if you don’t wanna call it strength use fear. Biden asleep at the wheel has been a free ticket for escalation. And Kamala would’ve made it 2x worse. I mean look how weak we looked pulling out of Afghanistan. It was an absolute shit show on par with Vietnam.
There’s nearly 2x more fentanyl overdoses per day than there were in 2019. I personally know people who have died. We need more BP agents, with better pay, better screening methods — and doing a hell of a lot more of them. Trump has 400million dollar plan for that, Kamala just visited the border for the first time a few months ago (as “border czar”) and said “we may need to start from scratch”.. The Border patrol has fully backed trump, and leaders have openly criticized Kamala. 15million illegal immigrants, 13,000k have been convicted of murder btw.
The presidency isn’t a popularity contest. I get you despise trump but there is no way that Harris is the better candidate. And because people are brain washed watching Fox News, it’s common sense. We were better off with Trump, until COVID. Biden/Harris has been an utter disaster, she ran a horrible campaign and she herself said she wouldn’t have changed anything. She also never gave a clear plan, it was all political buzzwords and scripted bullshit. She’s flipped on policies like banning fracking and defunding the police. We’re still not really clear where she stood there, she couldn’t even announce how she voted on prop 26 (which basically made shoplifting ilegal again, 70% voted yes lol) and mainly ran on abortion. It was just the most tone deaf shit I’ve ever seen. And NO I didn’t just guzzle Fox News. It’s common sense
What really drove me to even vote or support Donald Trump was the way he was treated after almost being assassinated twice. The hateful rhetoric was ramped up even more and it’s clear that its had an effect. I don’t remember anyone calling Trump LITERALLY HITLER, a fascist, rapist, sexist, racist dictator in 2016. Or people literally cutting off friends or family because they chose to support a horrible evil racist man. Is Donald Trump a great man? No, but he’s not anywhere close to the monster some of y’all make him out to be. Its rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Especially when you see all of that hate while countries going backwards. We needed a change, and that was the only change we could vote for
Edit: I mean look at this shit!
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/04havfU6fh
Drones are appearing all over country and our government has said NOT SHIT. I just saw videos of them in DC too. This one is right next to a plane descending into LaGuardia. Is it going to take a plane going down for Biden to finally tell us what is going on? It’s like we don’t even have a fuckin president right now.. Yet another reason why people voted for trump. We want transparency!
I absolutely get your point. And I think this is honestly the best, most thoughtful, pro-Republican 2024 election answer I've read on Reddit. Thank you for writing this! First of all; I'm sorry about your friends who overdosed. Fentanyl is a growing problem, and it's getting to the point where I would want there to be Naloxone (opioid overdose reverser) in every household just in case. Though there has been a great number of seized fentanyl in the U.S the last 3 years, with over 70 million pills being confiscated by the DEA in 2023 alone. Now TO HIS CREDIT Trump has not said he will cut DEA funding - but with Elon saying nothing is off the table I wouldn't be at all surprised. House republicans have consistently lobbied for budget cuts around the Justice department the last 2 years.
As for Afghanistan... what I am always mad about is that all this blame falls on Biden. It was Trump who started that whole process, and Biden (for better or worse) honored the deal Trump made with them.
In 2016 people were willing to give him a chance. And his own rhetoric wasn't as harsh back then either. He wasn't talking about holding camps for illegal immigrants who were actually born on american soil, wanting to tear apart the Jus Soli (birthright from land) and incarcerate his political rivals (except for Hilary, so there were signs). I absolutely agree that Kamala was less clear in the messaging than Trump was, but she didn't just run on abortion. There were plans; raising taxes on the top 0.2 % of the population to be able to greatly cut taxes from 95% of americans, increasing child tax credit (which republicans blocked in 2024, but was still what Kamala worked on most last 4 years), lowering prescription drug costs and (most importantly for me personally) reducing carbon emissions by 40%, while not completely removing oil and gas.
In contrast, Trumps campaign either did not address these issues or had Vance speak about it, and Trump did not confirm that were his policies (Vance also wants child tax credit). Or, as in the case of tax cuts, cutting it from bottom and top at the expense of the middle class and other budgets, which just doesn't make sense. (Not sayimg middle class would not also receive tax cuts, but low and not on par with profitable). She failed getting this info out to a majority of voters, and I agree that she often leaned in to the abortion question to much. But there were great plans. I also want to highlight that Biden/Harris has had huge problems getting anything to pass in the house. When democrats are in power, republican politicians go out of their way to ensure the country will not improve, and that nothing gets passed. Fox News always highlights the opposite in a way that I wish left-wing media did against the republicans... but they won't. Now democrats will probably lower the bar and start using the right-wing media tactic, so that should be interesting...
As for Trump, everything you said people are calling him, except being literally Hitler, is most likely true. He was never officially convicted of rape but the evidence speaks. He also throws out baseless pedophile accusations towards Biden and Walz, but NO ONE in the right-wing media even mentions how he himself bragged about going into the dressingrooms of 15 and 16 year old girls when they were naked just to look at their young bodies. There's an interview, look it up. There are other signs aswell, but not gonna go down that rabbit hole to further increase this wall of text.
There's more, like Trump moving the embassy in Israel triggering the attack by Hamas, his rumored communications with Putin during the Ukraine-Russia war and please, look into Tulsi Gabbard (Trumps pick for national intel director, and to me the worst cabinet pick there has ever been). I'm glad we can atleast agree on Fox News being harmful (I think?) and I will say I also felt disgusted by the rhetoric used by media in regards to the first assassination attempt. People saying stuff like "2 inches right" and "Soo close" and stuff, that was completely unacceptable. Also worrying that the rhetoric even became more hostile. But I don't think they should have lowered their rhetoric in regards to threat on democracy, since republicans has had that rhetoric towards the left-wing for as long as I can remember.
Long story short; I never hold it against voters who vote. You voted for trump and you clearly thought it through and don't just blindly believe what Fox News says. I respect that. And we should be allowed to vote for who we want. To me Kamala was in fact the better option, but that's not saying much. Because the alternative will focus on getting the top 1% richer and increase carbon emissions
This report shows the reason there is no trust in the Media. Calling RFKJ a vaccine sceptic is intentionally misleading and they know it. They leave out the fact that he is not across the board against vaccines but thinks as many doctors agree, that giving MRNA vaccines, that are unproven is a bad idea. Also giving them to children as soon as they are born is very suspect and potentially dangerous. The media know this nuance and just leave it out in order to mislead the public. Lying is the most hideous thing a media outlet can do.. Anther lie the media pushes is that the FBI had no field agents that participated in the riot. The FBI may not have set fires or threw fire bombs but they opened doors encouraging entry by holding doors open for people giving anyone walking up the impression that it was OK to walk in. The media has become an arm of the Democrat party and its corrupt,, unelected, political bureaucrats, The evidence is overwhelming.
ReplyDeleteBody of this way too long post is very UNDERWHELMING. LOL.
DeleteThe Clown Show Continues!
BTW I like CDC officials that do not dump dead bears in Central Park that could pose some serious health problems .......lol....silly MAGA' t ' s
liar of the year
ReplyDeleteI can't wait for all the cult members to find out
ReplyDeleteI could think of a lot of words other than 'Person'
ReplyDeletenone complimentary!
Deletehe should have won! he's proven america is a racist counrty. after all these years of denial. he finally told america's truth.
ReplyDeleteconvict of the year
ReplyDeleteBig deal. I was person of the year in 2006.
ReplyDeleteThat was actually me. :)
DeleteMe? I thought it was “you”
DeleteI am 100% sure that TIME MAG was well aware of all the negativity / crimes / convictions / and all around bad behaviour surrounding the orange dude, BUT they chose to ignore it for their own profits. Whether you hate him or love him, that magazine will have a higher volume of sales with him on the front cover. 🤮 He certainly enables a lot of others to sink to new lows in order to make $ or to be recognized or famous. And how everyone is really liking him and fawning over him now that he is prez again. It’s down right Disgusting and makes me so disappointed in humanity. I am sure none of us would introduce him to any women in our lives or have him in our lives at all if he wasn’t Trump. What a “lot” we’ve become. No spines to stand up and do what’s right. If there is a GOD, now would be a good time to show up to help people see the errors of their ways.
Delete???? person of the year is for most important/influential, not "most good"
Deletefor example: hitler was person of the year
Megan's Law is not the person of the year!
DeleteWhen conservatives joke that something is going to make liberals heads explode I usually roll my eyes.
ReplyDeleteI feel like my head is actually going to explode trying to comprehend this!
I'm going to be so angry once my Time subscription shows up at my doorstep let me tell you
DeleteWhy
DeleteThis makes me smile. That said, chin up you’ll be fine.
DeleteThe only good thing about this, is that Elon was also in the running. Might have hurt his ego
ReplyDeleteVery plausible. Anything to get those two small-minded narcissists properly at each other’s throats. It’s inevitable eventually, but the sooner the better, and I agree this might help matters more than us normies who do not need fawning attention 24/7 can quite comprehend.
DeletePerson of the year does not mean "best person alive" but the person who most impacted the news - bad or good.
ReplyDeleteStalin, Hitler and other very bad people got PoY.
It was funnier when he claimed he once was.
ReplyDeleteHe was in 2016 too
DeleteReferring to the time that Trump claimed to be 'Man of The Year' , except that no such award was given.
DeleteWhere is your source for that?
DeleteDon't need one.
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DeleteWhy?
DeleteBecause it comes across as an elitist attitude, and not wanting to engage in a real discussion
DeleteSorry. I'll play the tiny violin for you
DeleteFucking boot lickers
ReplyDeletePerson of the year is given to the most influential person of the year, whether for good or for bad. That's why Hitler won it in '38, as well as Stalin and Putin.
Delete“All hail the King!”
ReplyDeleteWell, they do give it to every President-Elect
ReplyDeleteLmao the cope is insane, not even 2 months ago mainstream media was calling him a nazi and threat to democracy
DeleteHitler was made TIME Person of the Year.
DeleteReally?
DeleteYes. Hitler (in 1938), Stalin, Khrushchev, Khomeini, and Putin, all winners. It's not an endorsement, it's a measure of how much of an influence they've had, even when they're (as with this year) a massive scumbag.
DeletePutin was nominated last year also
DeleteHe won it in 2007.
DeleteStalin won it twice
DeleteYes? You can Google it
Deletehttps://time.com/archive/6598257/adolf-hitler-man-of-the-year-1938/
Delete"mainstream media was calling him a nazi and threat to democracy"
DeleteNot just mainstream media, but also his VP pick, and his cabinet nominees, and everyone who was paying attention.
And is this supposed to be a good thing? Your saying this like its a gotcha moment
Delete"And is this supposed to be a good thing?"
DeleteYes, people saying things that are true is almost always a good thing.
"Your saying this like its a gotcha moment"
No, not even a little bit.
Ur telling me it is 100% true that trump is a nazi?
DeleteIt is 100% true that Trump is a fascist.
DeleteWhy do you think that? What has he done that makes you believe that?
DeleteThe dude literally incited an insurrection attempt and tried to overturn a free and fair election in 2020. Fucking A how is everyone forgetting this?
DeleteSeriously?
DeleteOff the top of my head ... threatening to jail rivals, trying to stay in power through violent and illegal means, ultranationalism, othering of groups like Muslims and immigrants, planning to fire apolitical roles to replace them with loyalists, presenting any political opponent as not merely disagreeing but actively immoral or even traitorous, threatening to use military against political opponents, idolising of violent (but loyal to him) criminals, promising to bypass the law by being a dictator, ... the list goes on and on.
You can’t think of one thing? Not one date comes to mind?
DeleteAnyone that tries to overthrow an election they lost like Trump did in 2020 is by definition a fascist
Delete"Lmao the cope is insane, not even 2 months ago mainstream media was calling him a nazi and threat to democracy"
DeleteFact: This is not the first time that Time Magazine has named a known threat to democracy as their Person of the Year.
Time Magazine has previously named a Nazi as their Person of the Year.
Adolf Hitler: Man of the Year, 1938 | TIME
Adolf Hitler: 1938 - Person of the Year: A Photo History - TIME
Did 'Time' Magazine Choose Adolf Hitler as Its Person of the Year in 1938? - Newsweek
Fact Check: Time Magazine’s 1938 'Man of the Year' choice not a Hitler endorsement | Reuters
They weren’t wrong 2 months ago.
DeleteWhich "mainstream media" was calling him a Nazi straight up?
Deletehttps://www.theglobalist.com/united-states-donald-trump-germany-adolf-hitler-dictatorship-propaganda-politics/
Deletehttps://www.ussc.edu.au/trump-s-garden-party-has-echoes-of-america-s-nazi-moment
No, mainstream.
DeleteTook me two seconds to find these, countless more articles and clips
DeleteSo which one of these links is considered "mainstream media"? Because I haven't heard of either. You got anything that people actually saw? Like NBC, CNN, Fox, even your weird OANN shit?
DeleteIdk what u mean by “your weird OANN” idek wtf that is, im just a regular american, not some super trump maga whatever, but you guys are so blue pilled here its insane, there is zero chance you dont remember all the articles and news stations calling him a nazi
DeleteYou also didn't actually post anything that called Trump a Nazi, because you didn't actually read the things you posted (one was from an Australian source). I'm sure you "idek" anything at all.
Deletehttps://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp-video/mmvo222807621632
Deletehttps://www.cnn.com/2024/05/06/politics/video/donald-trump-fundraiser-gestapo-biden-panel-reaction-ctm-digvid
This good enough bud?
You went digging for these. It wasn’t a mainstream pov.
DeleteNope, all i searched was “nbc trumo nazi” and “cnn trump nazi” nice try tho
DeleteNow do "Trump vermin" and "Hitler vermin"
DeleteAnd what would be the purpose of that?
DeleteLol nice Louis Dejoy impersonation
DeleteWhos that
DeleteThat search ability just up and vanished, huh?
DeleteBabygirl there is a HUGE difference between you finding two videos that say he has rhetoric similar to a nazi rally vs the mainstream media calling him a nazi/threat to democracy. CNN anchors haven’t spouted this rhetoric and in fact has normalized him the entire time.
DeleteNah you must be dense, even kamala herself called him a threat to democracy multiple times
DeleteAre you sure she wasn't quoting one of these guys?
Deletehttps://www.cnn.com/2024/11/21/politics/kfile-rfk-jr-trump-critique/index.html
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/j-d-vance-vice-president-called-donald-trump-americas-hitler.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-tulsi-gabbard-eviscerates-trump-saudi-arabia-s-bitch-n939011
And then guess what happened, they opened their eyes and saw what was happening in the real world, not your fantasy lgbtq, illegal immigrants everywhere, crime infested hell hole, and they realized its time for change
DeleteMe the dense one? We’re talking about mainstream media here. I don’t recall Kamala Harris being considered that.
DeleteWell we arent talking about kamala being called a threat to democracy are we? No. The point still stands that mainstream media never was on trumps side
DeleteYou can just say liberal media babe. Fox News is the #1 news network which kinda makes it the most mainstream..
DeleteIf you get your news from mainstream media your cooked😭
DeleteBECAUSE IT IS THE ONLY CONSERVATIVE NETWORK. The left has far more coverage, its not even close. Not to mention social media, twitter used to be a liberal echo chamber -- now X actually reflects reality and election results. Dont even get me started on this site, let alone this sub. The fact this is called "politics" is obscene lol
DeleteOh yeah! That one doesn't count. 90% of their coverage was blasting Trump. Maybe he wasn't directly called a Nazi by anyone 'mainstream' but they sure as hell supported it and parroted it anytime someone did.
DeleteHe's still a threat to democracy 🤷♂️
DeleteI’m still doing both of those things.
DeleteThis is absolutely disgusting... American mainstream media are collectively bending over for this monster
ReplyDeleteYou don't have to be a good person to make this list
DeleteYeah TIL from the thread, but I stand by my comment that he's disgusting :)
DeleteConsider that a lot of the mainstream is in the hands of a guy named Murdoch.
DeleteIt's not that they're bending over, it's a firm handshake after doing what they were supposed to do.
Hate to say it, but you’re 100% right. American media is just a propaganda machine now.
DeleteInfluenced by big money given to them by the highest bidder
DeleteAmerican media has always been a propaganda machine. That’s why I stay away from State run media. It’s just brainwashing.
Delete"Consider that a lot of the mainstream is in the hands of a guy named Murdoch."
DeleteThe entirety of media owned by Murdoch in the US is:
Fox News Wall Street Journal New York Post
Then a couple of specialized small mags/sites, like Barron's and MarketWatch.
The owner of Time Magazine is a uber donor to left-wing causes and the Democrat party. He's been called the "woke CEO" and had a habit of going on unhinged rants claiming capitalism was over.
He's this guy:
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/20/marc-benioff-salesforce-industry-washington-leaders-071803
"Tech’s woke CEO takes the stage Salesforce founder Marc Benioff wants to break up Facebook, has pushed for higher taxes on his industry and says capitalism ‘as we know it’ is over. And Washington is listening."
Time Magazine is entirely owned by a venture capitalist billionaire who is also the CEO of Salesforce.
DeleteHe and his shareholder buddies are going to rake in money from those Trump tax cuts for the rich.
"Time Magazine is entirely owned by a venture capitalist billionaire who is also the CEO of Salesforce."
DeleteAn openly leftist guy who has donated hundreds of millions to Democrats.
Btw, billionaires have consistently donated more to Democrats than Republicans.
Probably because in the last 4 years, all the Biden administration did was giving away trillions in corporate welfare (or, as democrats now call it, industrial policy).
He’s and his company are not going to rake in money from Trump’s promised tax cut? His deregulation plans aren’t going to benefit rich folk like him?
DeleteI don't think so - and I'm not even sure what promised tax cuts you're talking about that could benefit Salesforce or what deregulation plans (deregulation tends to help startups, not big incumbents like Salesforce, who actually tend to want more regulation). But.. you know the guy actually supported Harris, right? Right?
DeleteIf your point is that the reason the billionaires and big business tend to support Democrats far more than Republicans is because the Democrats policies of subsidies and regulations tend to favor big players, established incumbents, over the small up and coming guys, I do agree with you.
"I'm not even sure what promised tax cuts you're talking"
DeleteOne of the economic centerpieces of Trump’s campaign. Tax cuts for corps.
"deregulation tends to help startups"
The amount of collusion, anti-competitive practices, and outright crime large business can get up to is very troubling. They don’t want cops on the beat looking at their books.
"But.. you know the guy actually supported Harris, right? Right?"
Billionaires are transactional. He didn’t get where he is by being principled, he got where he is by being a greedy fuck. Fluffing Trump is just his new business transaction.
Trump is a servant of the rich, which all of these folks know, hence the donations and fluffery. You want to simp for a soulless media corpo, be my guest. I ain’t going with you.
I'm confused: are you saying he supported Harris for being transactional or not?
DeleteOf course. Everything is transactional.
DeleteHow is he a monster?
Delete24 hours passed and no response lol
DeleteHaven’t you heard?! He is 34 time felon! A fascist, racist, sexist, raping pig!! He is LITERALLY HITLER! And all of his followers are Nazis being brainwashed by radical right wing propaganda!
DeleteCame here for this, and you didn't disappoint.
Deletefar-left bot farms are still working?
DeleteNewsflash - I'm not far left and not a robot. Deep down you know he's a piece of shit too. But he 'owns the libs' so he's a hero to you, right? Pathetic...
DeleteWhere are you getting this idea from, not even two months ago mainstream media was calling him a threat to democracy, racist, homophobic, and now all of a sudden they love him???? Like cmon man
DeleteAdolf Hitler was named Person of the Year.
DeleteIn the issue published on January 2, 1939, Hitler was recognized as “the greatest threatening force that the democratic, freedom-loving world faces today.”
I feel like a big chunk of never Trump voters want the media to lower any semblance of professionalism and scream that he's a " Nazi" day and night for the next 4 years.
DeleteThey won't need to do that, he's going to fuck up the economy within 18 months.
DeleteThis is the real focus for midterms. He's an economical anti-Midas and his track record of running things into the ground speaks for itself.
DeleteThat's a bold prediction. Also what does that have to do with him being a "Nazi"?
Delete"That's a bold prediction."
DeleteNot really, he already did it once.
"Also what does that have to do with him being a "Nazi"?"
It has nothing to do with it, which is why I said they wouldn't need to call him a Nazi.
How exactly did he screw up the economy once? Only thing in my understanding that really hurt the economy was covid. There was no big recession under Trump. Claiming that he " will" not might or probably screw up the economy is a bold prediction.
DeleteWell they already had been doing it for the last 8 years
DeleteGeorge W Bush was Time person of the year in 2004. Within 3 years he was entering what political observers were calling the lame duck final year of his presidency.
ReplyDeleteThen the economy crashed, he bailed out the banks, and to this day Republicans say it was Obama who did that.
DeleteTo be fair Obama did tacitly support it.
Deletewhat's wrong with bailing out the banks? if the government would let them go under it would have caused FAR more damage than just bailing them out, besides, most of the money that the US did give the banks were paid back.
DeleteBailing struggling companies out prevented something that had the capacity to worsen the financial crisis.
Give me a fucking break.
ReplyDeleteTrump is the biggest fuck up this country has ever seen.
Name facts?
DeleteGas prices food cost of living skyrocketed in the last 4 years lmaooo
DeleteA large part of that is due to inflation caused by the influx of money entering the market thanks to COVID bailouts sponsored by Trump and Biden together.
DeleteName facts.
Delete"Yet already, the President-elect is moving the goalposts on some of his pledges, like lowering the price of groceries. “It’s hard to bring things down once they’re up,” Trump says. “You know, it’s very hard.” /"
ReplyDeletecongrats maga, you played yourself
Surely we could never have seen this coming!
DeleteI am a democrat. I voted for Trump.
DeleteShould have been Luigi.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely disgusting
DeleteWhatever. I was person of the year in 2006. It's not that special
ReplyDeleteTrump 2028!
ReplyDeleteCult Leader of the Year. A traitor to his country for all time.
ReplyDeleteHow is he a traitor?
DeleteJanuary 6th insurrection. Treason!
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DeleteHe never started an insurrection He told people to go peacefully to capital. He asked for 10,000 military and Nancy Pelosi denied it and now she has said she realizes it was her fault. You have a warped opinion and you do not do your own research. State media pushed the propaganda
DeleteHe did a fake elector scheme. John Eastman hatched a plot to install fake electors in all 7 swing states and have them falsely declare trump the winner in states Biden won. He then pressured Mike pense to unilaterally toss the results of the free and fair election and Choose the fake slate of electors. All of the fake electors have been indicted and some are in prison now. In addition, he called Georgia Secretary of State Brad rathlisburger asking to”find” him 11 thousand votes. That case was delayed and will never see the light of day now. Finally he stole classified documents from the White House and when asked by the doj to return them he first refused claiming they were “his” then he deleted footage and had his aid hide them so he could lie and say he gave them all back. He also wrote on his social media site truth that he wants to suspend the constitution. He is a fascist to the core, nobody disputes that anymore. His cult is either uneducated and are unaware of everything I just layed out or….. they like that he’s a fascist and want a strong man to be their daddy/king. Have a nice day
DeleteHow is he a traitor?
ReplyDeleteYou are in a cult. You are in a cult.
DeleteThat’s very cultish talking.
DeleteLMFAO 🤣 You are in a cult! What a dumbass!
Deletewhat is the name of the cult
DeleteMaga
DeleteCongratulations Mr President.
ReplyDelete"The mass media is part of the deep state!"
ReplyDelete- turmper coincidentally now correct
So WaS Ad0lPh hItLeRr
ReplyDeleteFor the first time ever the person of the year is a felon, rapist, fraudster and compulsive liar. Who says crime doesn’t pay.
ReplyDeleteHitler and Stalin would probably hit a few of these points, but not all.
DeleteTo be fair, it’s almost a certainty that the person of the year in 2006 was all of those things.
DeleteThere was no person of the year in 2006. It was a collaborative of everyone called “You”!
DeleteReminder the president elect normally gets person of the year.
ReplyDeleteI’m so glad they are going back to the time when they had hitler as man of the year.
ReplyDeleteIt should always be about the influence of a person not their character. and America chose this monster as our president. Hooray?
How is he a monster? I am democrat. I voted for Trump.
DeleteLuigi Mangione came too late to be nominated.
ReplyDeleteTime has lost all credibility considering their selection is a FELON and convicted female assaulter.
ReplyDelete1 misdemeanor.
Delete1 misdemeanor, 34 felonies, tomato, potato.
DeleteNow he doesn’t need the fake Time cover he made up for himself.
ReplyDeleteBoo. Hiss.
ReplyDeleteCan we not?
ReplyDeleteMoney grab. You know the going to sell some issues with this move.
ReplyDeleteWho cares, even Putin was person of the year once.
ReplyDeleteGives new (and onerous) meaning to the phrase, "Person of the Year."
ReplyDeleteYeah, not like they’ve given it to both Hitler and Stalin before right?
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Deletehttps://time.com/archive/6598257/adolf-hitler-man-of-the-year-1938/
ReplyDeleteIt couldnt be anyone else
ReplyDeleteHitler btw
ReplyDeleteIn 2024, the year of Gisele Pelicot's bravery, they choose this idiot. Pfft....
ReplyDeleteSo were Biden and Kamala in 2020. Who cares either way.
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ReplyDeleteUh, yeah, this is a place where people post sources to news. This place isn't meant to be a source. Surprise, you still have to do the work yourself!
DeleteTruth is many people do use reddit as a source of news. Especially the politics and worldnews subs.
DeleteBut yeah, the extreme bias here makes that bad practice.
Wondering why you feel this is even newsworthy.
DeleteIncidentally, this sub considered Biden and Kamala being awarded as Time Person of the Year in 2020 as Newsworthy, because they upvoted it.
DeleteThis reveals more about the political leanings of this sub and less about it being a newsworthy event. Not surprising, given that this is a political sub.
DeleteIt’s not too late to delete this, wait nvm.
Delete"downvoting news they don't like"
ReplyDeleteIt's probably because this news has already been posted about a dozen times.
This is the official announcement
DeleteThe previous ones were predictions from other sites. Like "Trump set to be awarded Time Person of the Year"
Cool. Still been posted a dozen times already
DeleteThis is like saying the official announcement of Biden winning the 2020 election isn't necessary to post because a dozen media houses already forecasted his victory already
DeleteYou can argue all you like, I'm just suggesting one possible reasonable explanation for this not getting lots of upvotes. This news was posted a bunch of times, people tend to downvote repeated posts. Whatever nuance you think is important in the source or the timing, it doesn't seem that anybody else cares about it.
DeleteAnother possible reasonable explanation would be that nobody really cares about the Time Person of the Year.
Hahaha who gives a fuck
ReplyDeleteFuck time magazine
ReplyDeleteLol what's your problem? They always give it to whoever wins the election
DeleteMy problem is who they gave it to.
DeleteHow insightful.
DeleteI can't help but get triggered by this. Why do they do this? Why do they insist on lowering the bar continously? The man is a confirmed sexual assaulter and felon. There's credible evidence suggesting he's a pedophile and rapist. He is a notorious liar and a terrible human being.
ReplyDeleteI don't hate on voters for voting republican, the right-wing media is a fierce machine who is fooling people on a Joseph Goebbels level. Voters are exercising their right.
But SURELY the mainstream media knows all of this? They know who he is, they have both sides, they can see facts and police reports... so why the hell do they do this?? Exhausting.
As people in this very thread have already pointed out, Time names the "Person of the Year" based on their influence, not whether they're "good" or "bad". That's why Hitler, Stalin, and Putin have also gotten the title.
DeleteTime Magazine is entirely owned by a venture capitalist billionaire. He and his shareholder buddies are going to make a lot of money from Trump’s tax cuts for the rich.
DeleteOh.. that makes sense... Weirdly feel a lot better knowing this is one persons agenda. Cheers 🙂
DeleteBiden Administration had the largest increase on taxes corporations and individuals
DeleteYou do realize far more billionaires vote blue not red, right?
DeleteHe is not a confirmed felon he hasn’t been charged
DeleteHe was found guilty May 30th this year. Don't trust sources that say otherwise.
DeleteHe had a misdemeanor charge that was upped to 34 felony counts without precedence. Literally weaponization of the courts to smear a pollical opponent. The cases were dismissed because they were bullshit.
DeleteNo, but I'm not sueprised you think so, consisering how Fox News coverage has been..
Delete"the right-wing media is a fierce machine who is fooling people on a Joseph Goebbels level."
DeleteRight wing media is a fierce machine lol. What? You mean Fox News? The left absolutely dominates the news cycle with propaganda that would make Goebbels blush. Insane how out of touch some people on the left are.
This election 80% of the media was NEGATIVE towards Trump, while 75% was POSITIVE for Kamala. In no world can you blame this election on the "fierce right-wing propaganda machine fooling the masses". Kamala lost because she wasn't a good candidate. She hid from the media and came off as fake and scripted. She focused on policies like abortion, when most Americans were more concerned about the border, inflation and de-escalating wars (and there were none under Trump). We need a strong leader, not someone who hides behind a teleprompter. She couldn't even do a 3-hour interview with Rogan, they knew it'd expose her --how do you think she would do negotiating with Putin or Xi? They would walk all over her, just as they have with Biden. 75% of Americans agreed we were on the wrong track under the Biden administration. Kamala herself said she wouldn't have done anything differently.
Harris didn't even make it to the primaries in 2020 within your own party. Are these results really that surprising? You have to be deeply entrenched inside a liberal echo chamber to believe this election was lost because of the big bad right wing propaganda machine lol.
The fact that you think they have walked all over Biden and actually won't with Trump tells me that you're already being fed Fox News on a daily basis... Trump is not respected by Putin or Xi. They are happy he won.
DeleteAs for the whole people not happy with Biden, I hear you. I get that reasoning, but here's the thing though; if your not happy with your dentist, you get another dentist. You might get recommendations from friends and family, and in the end you end up seeing a new, qualified dentist. You wouldn't go get your mouth drilled by a construction company just cause some people say they've done a great job on others (though can't provide any damn evidence). That's what your doing when you go replace a qualified politician with Donald Trump.
And while we are never gonna see eye to eye on this topic, I appreciate that you presented your view, I'm not saying there are not valid points in the Biden and Kamala criticism, but from my perspective there is just no excuse to sacrifice democracy by voting for a man who actively aims to dismantle it.
Kinda sounds like you agreed with most of what I said till you got to “we need a strong leader”. Im not even an a massive Trump supporter, this is actually the first election I voted in. But do you really think Harris would’ve done a better job? I get people hate the guy but it’s pretty simple. We need to secure our border, deescalate wars abroad.
DeleteDo you really think it’s a coincidence that Russia chose to invade Ukraine as soon as Biden took office? They had been trying to take Ukraine from the inside for over a decade. As soon as Biden comes in they start mounting troops on the border. Then Israel happens, plus escalations with Iran and China. You can hate Trump all you want but the fact is they DO respect him. If they don’t respect him they’re scared of him. You achieve peace through strength, if you don’t wanna call it strength use fear. Biden asleep at the wheel has been a free ticket for escalation. And Kamala would’ve made it 2x worse. I mean look how weak we looked pulling out of Afghanistan. It was an absolute shit show on par with Vietnam.
There’s nearly 2x more fentanyl overdoses per day than there were in 2019. I personally know people who have died. We need more BP agents, with better pay, better screening methods — and doing a hell of a lot more of them. Trump has 400million dollar plan for that, Kamala just visited the border for the first time a few months ago (as “border czar”) and said “we may need to start from scratch”.. The Border patrol has fully backed trump, and leaders have openly criticized Kamala. 15million illegal immigrants, 13,000k have been convicted of murder btw.
The presidency isn’t a popularity contest. I get you despise trump but there is no way that Harris is the better candidate. And because people are brain washed watching Fox News, it’s common sense. We were better off with Trump, until COVID. Biden/Harris has been an utter disaster, she ran a horrible campaign and she herself said she wouldn’t have changed anything. She also never gave a clear plan, it was all political buzzwords and scripted bullshit. She’s flipped on policies like banning fracking and defunding the police. We’re still not really clear where she stood there, she couldn’t even announce how she voted on prop 26 (which basically made shoplifting ilegal again, 70% voted yes lol) and mainly ran on abortion. It was just the most tone deaf shit I’ve ever seen. And NO I didn’t just guzzle Fox News. It’s common sense
What really drove me to even vote or support Donald Trump was the way he was treated after almost being assassinated twice. The hateful rhetoric was ramped up even more and it’s clear that its had an effect. I don’t remember anyone calling Trump LITERALLY HITLER, a fascist, rapist, sexist, racist dictator in 2016. Or people literally cutting off friends or family because they chose to support a horrible evil racist man. Is Donald Trump a great man? No, but he’s not anywhere close to the monster some of y’all make him out to be. Its rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Especially when you see all of that hate while countries going backwards. We needed a change, and that was the only change we could vote for
Edit: I mean look at this shit!
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/04havfU6fh
Drones are appearing all over country and our government has said NOT SHIT. I just saw videos of them in DC too. This one is right next to a plane descending into LaGuardia. Is it going to take a plane going down for Biden to finally tell us what is going on? It’s like we don’t even have a fuckin president right now.. Yet another reason why people voted for trump. We want transparency!
I absolutely get your point. And I think this is honestly the best, most thoughtful, pro-Republican 2024 election answer I've read on Reddit. Thank you for writing this! First of all; I'm sorry about your friends who overdosed. Fentanyl is a growing problem, and it's getting to the point where I would want there to be Naloxone (opioid overdose reverser) in every household just in case. Though there has been a great number of seized fentanyl in the U.S the last 3 years, with over 70 million pills being confiscated by the DEA in 2023 alone. Now TO HIS CREDIT Trump has not said he will cut DEA funding - but with Elon saying nothing is off the table I wouldn't be at all surprised. House republicans have consistently lobbied for budget cuts around the Justice department the last 2 years.
DeleteAs for Afghanistan... what I am always mad about is that all this blame falls on Biden. It was Trump who started that whole process, and Biden (for better or worse) honored the deal Trump made with them.
In 2016 people were willing to give him a chance. And his own rhetoric wasn't as harsh back then either. He wasn't talking about holding camps for illegal immigrants who were actually born on american soil, wanting to tear apart the Jus Soli (birthright from land) and incarcerate his political rivals (except for Hilary, so there were signs). I absolutely agree that Kamala was less clear in the messaging than Trump was, but she didn't just run on abortion. There were plans; raising taxes on the top 0.2 % of the population to be able to greatly cut taxes from 95% of americans, increasing child tax credit (which republicans blocked in 2024, but was still what Kamala worked on most last 4 years), lowering prescription drug costs and (most importantly for me personally) reducing carbon emissions by 40%, while not completely removing oil and gas.
In contrast, Trumps campaign either did not address these issues or had Vance speak about it, and Trump did not confirm that were his policies (Vance also wants child tax credit). Or, as in the case of tax cuts, cutting it from bottom and top at the expense of the middle class and other budgets, which just doesn't make sense. (Not sayimg middle class would not also receive tax cuts, but low and not on par with profitable). She failed getting this info out to a majority of voters, and I agree that she often leaned in to the abortion question to much. But there were great plans. I also want to highlight that Biden/Harris has had huge problems getting anything to pass in the house. When democrats are in power, republican politicians go out of their way to ensure the country will not improve, and that nothing gets passed. Fox News always highlights the opposite in a way that I wish left-wing media did against the republicans... but they won't. Now democrats will probably lower the bar and start using the right-wing media tactic, so that should be interesting...
As for Trump, everything you said people are calling him, except being literally Hitler, is most likely true. He was never officially convicted of rape but the evidence speaks. He also throws out baseless pedophile accusations towards Biden and Walz, but NO ONE in the right-wing media even mentions how he himself bragged about going into the dressingrooms of 15 and 16 year old girls when they were naked just to look at their young bodies. There's an interview, look it up. There are other signs aswell, but not gonna go down that rabbit hole to further increase this wall of text.
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DeleteThere's more, like Trump moving the embassy in Israel triggering the attack by Hamas, his rumored communications with Putin during the Ukraine-Russia war and please, look into Tulsi Gabbard (Trumps pick for national intel director, and to me the worst cabinet pick there has ever been). I'm glad we can atleast agree on Fox News being harmful (I think?) and I will say I also felt disgusted by the rhetoric used by media in regards to the first assassination attempt. People saying stuff like "2 inches right" and "Soo close" and stuff, that was completely unacceptable. Also worrying that the rhetoric even became more hostile. But I don't think they should have lowered their rhetoric in regards to threat on democracy, since republicans has had that rhetoric towards the left-wing for as long as I can remember.
Long story short; I never hold it against voters who vote. You voted for trump and you clearly thought it through and don't just blindly believe what Fox News says. I respect that. And we should be allowed to vote for who we want. To me Kamala was in fact the better option, but that's not saying much. Because the alternative will focus on getting the top 1% richer and increase carbon emissions